Well this sucks

mr sunshine

mr sunshine

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justugh said:
it is outdoor

move to indoor ......it will never happen again
outdoor is all well and good if u are in a good area .......but indoor is the shit u are mimiking the best possible day outdoor as many times as posible indoor (the plant will produce more buds with a higher content )
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You can grow way more bud outside. You can't grow a 5 lb plant inside your house.
 
justugh

justugh

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mr sunshine said:
You can grow way more bud outside. You can't grow a 5 lb plant inside your house.
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calling Bullshit
i will post a plant that does that or better with lab tested results
if a auto plant in dwc can do 26 oz 20 grams in a 110 days ........i am sure i can do much better on a photo controlling the growth cycle for 60 days should more then do it with what i know on feedings

hell run it 120 days growth


outdoor is a variable u can not control the weather the animal life the incest life .......u can not control shit
indoor u are able to control it all and mimic the best outdoor day for the life of plant

i am building my own building ......fitting it all with the gear i want the way i want .....the days of underground growing for me is over ......no more jerry rigging no more worring about cops ........i grow u any size plant u want with in 3 grows of a strain i will have figured it out and tweaked the feed to max the plant out

i was limited ......7 gallons of soil doing 6 10 oz a plant
hell give me a 35 gallon or 50 gallon i bet a auto could do it with the right feed on the right time table ..........hell thank u that is the experiment goal now ...super soil 35 gallon max the weight out that is 5 times what i was working with .....thanks should be fun

edit the building is
24x36x12 maybe 14
Co2
mixed lighting HID and LED
i know the hvac for hids i will over power the system so it only runs on 50/75% the load seer 21
 
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mr sunshine

mr sunshine

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justugh said:
calling Bullshit
i will post a plant that does that or better with lab tested results
if a auto plant in dwc can do 26 oz 20 grams in a 110 days ........i am sure i can do much better on a photo controlling the growth cycle for 60 days should more then do it with what i know on feedings

hell run it 120 days growth


outdoor is a variable u can not control the weather the animal life the incest life .......u can not control shit
indoor u are able to control it all and mimic the best outdoor day for the life of plant

i am building my own building ......fitting it all with the gear i want the way i want .....the days of underground growing for me is over ......no more jerry rigging no more worring about cops ........i grow u any size plant u want with in 3 grows of a strain i will have figured it out and tweaked the feed to max the plant out

i was limited ......7 gallons of soil doing 6 10 oz a plant
hell give me a 35 gallon or 50 gallon i bet a auto could do it with the right feed on the right time table ..........hell thank u that is the experiment goal now ...super soil 35 gallon max the weight out that is 5 times what i was working with .....thanks should be fun
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Grow lights might be super powerful from close but they don't penetrate. I've grown indoor and outdoor. I know bro , I know... you just grow indoor, that's why you don't know.
 
justugh

justugh

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mr sunshine said:
Grow lights might be super powerful from close but they don't penetrate. I've grown indoor and outdoor. I know bro , I know... you just grow indoor, that's why you don't know.
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LED is a 36 inch depth with just a 90 degree lens 60 degree u are looking in upper 40s

1 1000w hid did 26 oz 20 grams .....23 oz where of sellable buds (good stuff willing my name to be attached too)

the new Leds i been messing around with the last 2 years are the shit .......they do better the the HID ........hid is only good for area of coverage .....LED has turned that 70/30 to 90/10 dence bud/fluffy bud
 
mr sunshine

mr sunshine

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justugh said:
LED is a 36 inch depth with just a 90 degree lens 60 degree u are looking in upper 40s

1 1000w hid did 26 oz 20 grams .....23 oz where of sellable buds (good stuff willing my name to be attached too)

the new Leds i been messing around with the last 2 years are the shit .......they do better the the HID ........hid is only good for area of coverage .....LED has turned that 70/30 to 90/10 dence bud/fluffy bud
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Do you grow outdoors?
 
justugh

justugh

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mr sunshine said:
Do you grow outdoors?
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never had the chance .....really i was able to do 4 plants on the back deck but i was pushing luck they got moved indoor about 2week into flowering (state trooper next door)

but all the methods and understanding i got has come from the idea to mimic the best possible day outside inside for the plant

i got 5 years of experiments using all lighting except plasma( even to me that is just crazy to use super heated plasma indoor for lighting)
 
mr sunshine

mr sunshine

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justugh said:
never had the chance .....really i was able to do 4 plants on the back deck but i was pushing luck they got moved indoor about 2week into flowering (state trooper next door)

but all the methods and understanding i got has come from the idea to mimic the best possible day outside inside for the plant

i got 5 years of experiments using all lighting except plasma( even to me that is just crazy to use super heated plasma indoor for lighting)
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That's why you don't know.



You're talking about 40 something inches of penetration, at best.. I'm talking about 7 to ten foot bushes full of weed.
 
smokermore

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Singlemalt said:
They were pretty leggy, where did you start them? How long were they planted outside?
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I started them inside about 5 or 6 weeks ago. Been outside a little over a week. It's been really windy this whole week. They've been through a lot. I wonder if I should just start getting some seeds ready and start over, and not veg at all inside. I think I might do that
 
justugh

justugh

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mr sunshine said:
That's why you don't know.



You're talking about 40 something inches of penetration, at best.. I'm talking about 7 to ten foot bushes full of weed.
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the sun at the best day has 150k lumen output from 10 to 2 4 hours then it drops to 100k from about 8-10 and 2-6 then down to 75k around 7/8 .....on a sunny day with no clouds (throw those in there and the lumens are around 50 to 100k at best ).......a hid light is around 110k (1000w) and LED goes in Par ratings

the sun can not go as deep as LED light (because LED is more focused ) ......the out door plant has to be big and bush and u need to prune off some of the leaves to allow light into the lower bud sights

anything that can be done outdoor can be done indoor ......safer and easier on the nerves (your only big worry is power and having a back up genny takes care of that issue
when they make weather controlling machines then it would be different)
 
mr sunshine

mr sunshine

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justugh said:
the sun at the best day has 150k lumen output from 10 to 2 4 hours then it drops to 100k from about 8-10 and 2-6 then down to 75k around 7/8 .....on a sunny day with no clouds (throw those in there and the lumens are around 50 to 100k at best ).......a hid light is around 110k (1000w) and LED goes in Par ratings

the sun can not go as deep as LED light (because LED is more focused ) ......the out door plant has to be big and bush and u need to prune off some of the leaves to allow light into the lower bud sights

anything that can be done outdoor can be done indoor ......safer and easier on the nerves (your only big worry is power and having a back up genny takes care of that issue
when they make weather controlling machines then it would be different)
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You're just talking about something you've never done.





I've done both and outdoor yields way more. You should try it before you act like you've done it.
 
jerryb73

jerryb73

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Indacouch said:
:hump:......if I grew I'd know about them 14 foot sativas last summer .....but I don't.... so what do I know..... #fuckrats
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What's up bro, you keep talking bout "rats" and I assume you don't mean the four legged kind.. what's up with that? You live in Cali right? Not legal to grow? I don't keep up with all the legalities, I just know it's illegal where I live :???:
 
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