Preparing for my first outdoor grow

THGrow

THGrow

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Hello everyone. I just want to start off by thanking everyone in advance for all the info I am sure to receive. Please do not laugh at any of my questions lol. I am posting this thread more or less because I would like any and all helpful advice, hints, tips, etc... that anyone may be able to provide me. I have grown successfully indoors many times but have decided to venture outdoors. I have NEVER grown outdoors. I have secured land in the north - western part of Colorado around DE Beque, Parachute, and Rulison. The property is already setup, and ready to go with 300 50 gallon pots (similar to the smart pots) a reservoir system and so fourth. My partners and I have been considering just changing them to 99 300 gallon pots. My questions start here. First of all, I have read a million threads on grow mediums and I was just hoping to get some input. What would everyone recommend? What different compositions? Anything in-particular that may work better due to the regions climate? Also, any companies anyone might suggest for soil delivery.
Next, I am interested in nutrients. I was considering going organic but may only do that with half of the plants. I have been looking into House and Garden which I have used indoors and Mills Nutrients (mills pays the bills) which I have never used. Any recommendations?
I have been doing a lot of research on when to bring the plants outdoors and have been seeing many different time periods but cant lock in an answer I am content with. I have been researching frost dates and average last frost days but am still at a loss, so help on this topic would be much appreciative.
One last question for now. What strains have any of you been successful with in that region and climate? Im looking for a whole variety of strains.
Thank you again for taking the time to read this and once again all tips, advice, answers, help, etc. would be much appreciative.
 
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ForeverGreen42

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Definitely keep it at 99 or less. I personally would keep it significantly lower than that. I just got a 70 plant count so will only be 35 For me next year. Youll produce more of the 99 300 gallons anyways. Shits about to get real this next year. I'm in southern co. Northern co is usually a little colder, but june is when Everyone puts them out here. I put some out in may, some in June last year. Ultimately the one put out in June did better. Best of luck.
 
thumper60

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THGrow said:
Hello everyone. I just want to start off by thanking everyone in advance for all the info I am sure to receive. Please do not laugh at any of my questions lol. I am posting this thread more or less because I would like any and all helpful advice, hints, tips, etc... that anyone may be able to provide me. I have grown successfully indoors many times but have decided to venture outdoors. I have NEVER grown outdoors. I have secured land in the north - western part of Colorado around DE Beque, Parachute, and Rulison. The property is already setup, and ready to go with 300 50 gallon pots (similar to the smart pots) a reservoir system and so fourth. My partners and I have been considering just changing them to 99 300 gallon pots. My questions start here. First of all, I have read a million threads on grow mediums and I was just hoping to get some input. What would everyone recommend? What different compositions? Anything in-particular that may work better due to the regions climate? Also, any companies anyone might suggest for soil delivery.
Next, I am interested in nutrients. I was considering going organic but may only do that with half of the plants. I have been looking into House and Garden which I have used indoors and Mills Nutrients (mills pays the bills) which I have never used. Any recommendations?
I have been doing a lot of research on when to bring the plants outdoors and have been seeing many different time periods but cant lock in an answer I am content with. I have been researching frost dates and average last frost days but am still at a loss, so help on this topic would be much appreciative.
One last question for now. What strains have any of you been successful with in that region and climate? Im looking for a whole variety of strains.
Thank you again for taking the time to read this and once again all tips, advice, answers, help, etc. would be much appreciative.
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stay 99 or less keep the feds out if shit hits the fan:bigjoint:good luck
 
chemphlegm

chemphlegm

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Organicare by Botanicare. a no fuss complete system for your soil/mix plants. I use it indoors and out with no regerts:blsmoke:
 
Prince4118

Prince4118

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THGrow said:
Hello everyone. I just want to start off by thanking everyone in advance for all the info I am sure to receive. Please do not laugh at any of my questions lol. I am posting this thread more or less because I would like any and all helpful advice, hints, tips, etc... that anyone may be able to provide me. I have grown successfully indoors many times but have decided to venture outdoors. I have NEVER grown outdoors. I have secured land in the north - western part of Colorado around DE Beque, Parachute, and Rulison. The property is already setup, and ready to go with 300 50 gallon pots (similar to the smart pots) a reservoir system and so fourth. My partners and I have been considering just changing them to 99 300 gallon pots. My questions start here. First of all, I have read a million threads on grow mediums and I was just hoping to get some input. What would everyone recommend? What different compositions? Anything in-particular that may work better due to the regions climate? Also, any companies anyone might suggest for soil delivery.
Next, I am interested in nutrients. I was considering going organic but may only do that with half of the plants. I have been looking into House and Garden which I have used indoors and Mills Nutrients (mills pays the bills) which I have never used. Any recommendations?
I have been doing a lot of research on when to bring the plants outdoors and have been seeing many different time periods but cant lock in an answer I am content with. I have been researching frost dates and average last frost days but am still at a loss, so help on this topic would be much appreciative.
One last question for now. What strains have any of you been successful with in that region and climate? Im looking for a whole variety of strains.
Thank you again for taking the time to read this and once again all tips, advice, answers, help, etc. would be much appreciative.
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wait so your first outdoor grow is gonna be 99 plants? fuxk im lucky to get 5 out
 
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ForeverGreen42

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Prince4118 said:
wait so your first outdoor grow is gonna be 99 plants? fuxk im lucky to get 5 out
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Lol that's the truth.. seems like most people don't realize how much time it takes. I did 65 300 gallons last year and me + my friend were working 12-16 hour days minimum during the peak of the summer. I think our slowest day was an 8 hour day.. was nice taking it easy that day. And thats with me having several outdoor grows under my belt.

Also I don't think people realize how much money goes into a grow that size. I spent 15-20K just in nutes last year.. then you've got the 30-40k in soil, plus water tanks, pumps etc. It adds up quick.

I'm looking forward to only doing 35 400 gallons this year, will be nice not having to work so much
 
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ForeverGreen42

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If one was to start that big you shouldnt have any questions to ask . 75 worked me and probably cost around 10 k in nutrients.
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You still using maxsea? I've been using botanicare.. shits expensive. I'm buying all 55 gallon drums next year, fuck the 5 gallon bottles, cost to much :hump:
 
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TWS

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ForeverGreen42 said:
You still using maxsea? I've been using botanicare.. shits expensive. I'm buying all 55 gallon drums next year, fuck the 5 gallon bottles, cost to much :hump:
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Since I am going to run smaller plants and harvest four times a year I'm going back to organics so I can just chop and replant with out re amending or salt lock out . I will be using this stuff and you actually get more for less than maxsea. Credit to Jj's crew.
I was all so not happy the last few seasons with Terpene levels.
http://growgreentrees.com/
 
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ForeverGreen42

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TWS said:
Since I am going to run smaller plants and harvest four times a year I'm going back to organics so I can just chop and replant with out re amending or salt lock out . I will be using this stuff and you actually get more for less than maxsea. Credit to Jj's crew.
I was all so not happy the last few seasons with Terpene levels.
http://growgreentrees.com/
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Doing light deps in the summer? That's awesome though man, thanks for posting the link, I may have to give that a try! Yeah my brother ran maxsea this year and it was cheaper than botanicare but smell/taste didn't come out quite as good... Will be nice not having to re amend! Best of luck this season G
 
THGrow

THGrow

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ForeverGreen42 said:
Lol that's the truth.. seems like most people don't realize how much time it takes. I did 65 300 gallons last year and me + my friend were working 12-16 hour days minimum during the peak of the summer. I think our slowest day was an 8 hour day.. was nice taking it easy that day. And thats with me having several outdoor grows under my belt.

Also I don't think people realize how much money goes into a grow that size. I spent 15-20K just in nutes last year.. then you've got the 30-40k in soil, plus water tanks, pumps etc. It adds up quick.

I'm looking forward to only doing 35 400 gallons this year, will be nice not having to work so much
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I do realize that I am about to venture into a lot of hard work. I have a team of 4 (including myself) so I am pretty confident we can get the work done. We have been trying to get round about numbers on soil and nutes and do realize what we have to put into this. I do appreciate any advice anyone may have to offer. It all will be greatly helpful. Thanks again.
 
THGrow

THGrow

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ForeverGreen42 said:
Lol that's the truth.. seems like most people don't realize how much time it takes. I did 65 300 gallons last year and me + my friend were working 12-16 hour days minimum during the peak of the summer. I think our slowest day was an 8 hour day.. was nice taking it easy that day. And thats with me having several outdoor grows under my belt.

Also I don't think people realize how much money goes into a grow that size. I spent 15-20K just in nutes last year.. then you've got the 30-40k in soil, plus water tanks, pumps etc. It adds up quick.

I'm looking forward to only doing 35 400 gallons this year, will be nice not having to work so much
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What soil did you use if you dont mind me asking? What composition / additives/ etc.... ? Thank you in advance.
 
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ForeverGreen42

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THGrow said:
What soil did you use if you dont mind me asking? What composition / additives/ etc.... ? Thank you in advance.
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Honestly just fox farm ocean forrest then added some EWC & dolomite lime... expensive AF buying bagged soil, but it's good and reliable. There was no other options for me as I'm in the middle of no where. If I would of had an option to buy some good soil from a nursery or somewhere I would have done that then amended it. This year I'm just gonna re amend what I have then re use it. If you get a good quality soil, especially if you use organic nutes then you can use over and over again. Pays for itself quick. If there's anything else I can help with let me know.

One thing I learned from this year - huge reseviors help a TON. I ended up using a 1,650 gallon mixing tank.. was using a 200 gallon and had to mix wayyy to many batches of nutes. Was a PITA. 1650 definitely made it MUCH more time efficient.


Just do us all a big favor and keep it under 99 bro. I think there is a very high chance of the Fed's cracking down this year and all these people doing larger than 99 plant grows are bringing way to much heat to the state. Plus if you get popped with over 99 and the Fed's decide to pick up the case your fucked. No attorney can help you then. I know someone who got popped with a couple hundred indoors and is now looking at 40 years fed time + 5 million in fines. Stay safe.
 
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