GC's 2016/17 outdoor season

greencropper

greencropper

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v.s one said:
You got a lot of work over there? I don't mind bro post them babies. Always learning around here.
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ok ive got 1 sick one + another maybe...i will show comparison pics & closeups of the rootzone to highlight the effect of this rootrot in action, these plants that are affected have been getting nonstop double dose of mycorr treatment from germination yet still succumb, heavy soil mix is partly to blame but this area is filthy with the negative fungal spores, plants in the compost/coco/perlite mix have not succumb to the rot, pics tomorrow morning bro
 
greencropper

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@v.s one hi bro, here's an example of how this root rot stunts & eventually kills the plants here;
both plants are same strain planted same time, plant on left is in a good compost/coco/perlite mix, plant on right is in a heavy red soil/compost/perlite mix, most that are planted in the heavy red mix are going ok but about 30% smaller on average than compared to the plants in the good mix, none of the plants in the good mix have shown sign of this disease, this sick smaller plant isnt an ideal example of this root rot cos only about 50% of its rootzone are destroyed, earlier diseased plants were in a much worse state with 90% of rootzone damaged & more clearer to see, those were discarded 6 days ago, this disease is so strong in this area it has been impossible to grow in pots with any type of commercially available potting mix for 15yrs(for some reason this disease has a real affinity with commercial potting mixes), its still impossible even when using mycorrhizal/tricho treatments, its only with experimentation with different homemade coco/compost/soil mixes in combo with myco/tricho treatment this last 18mths has allowed growing in pots again possible...dude you would not wish this pox of a disease on anyone's grow area!, the government in this country has been totally sealing off/quarantining farms with this type of infection for up to 30yrs...this is no b.s bro lol

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greencropper

greencropper

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v.s one said:
Dam that sucks bro.you really can see the difference in plants. Do certain strains do better against the pathogens or do they all go gown hill?Thanks for the pics.
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thanks bro, no strains are resistant to it...for the first 3yrs from approx 2000 i had no idea what was happening & just kept planting & planting & planting beans while trying to work out what the problem was...just in those 3yrs i went through about 5000 of my best beans...in the 15yrs total amount of plants & seeds gone is ridiculous, for the last 7 years the disease allowed growth in the red soil...then early 2015 it morphed into not allowing any growth in the ground soil, at the same time i discovered myco/tricho treatments, but still disease wont allow plants grown in soil with myco, so was forced into a corner to proceed with experimentation with coco/compost/perlite mixes in combination trcho/myco which appears to be working this last 18mths...alls looking good now man with them, just hope can afford the next 6mths bill for the myco/tricho formula used at every watering...that shit is not cheap!...but truly man i never thought i would be able to grow in pots here again so am over the moon, be going very silly the next few years with some pollen chucks now growth in pots is on the agenda again lol
 
greencropper

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the plants in my first grow journal that are in the ground have a compost/red soil combination, there was approx 20% casualties in that lot, the disease would not allow growth just in the red soil alone cos of slow drainage which the disease favors, from now on everything will be grown in the latest combination of 60% compost, 40% coco, then 1/3 added perlite, with some manures & trace elements added as well as myco/tricho treatment with every watering for the pots, have noticed that plants in the ground in the latest soil mix do not need further added myco/tricho treatments once plants are approx 2' high as beneficial fungi appear to establish & not needed anymore
 
greencropper

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eastcoastmo said:
Holy crap bro, there is a massive difference hey! Sorry you have to go through this shit man, must be a real PITA :(
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thanks man, was/is a true nightmare, light now from the long dark tunnel that was this disease issue...and i think it all started from leaving dead weed stems still planted in pots...i remember seeing a blotchy fungus appear on those dead stems near the time in 1999-2000 when this disease started its wholesale slaughter...it was not present before in any form whatsoever
 
eastcoastmo

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greencropper said:
thanks man, was/is a true nightmare, light now from the long dark tunnel that was this disease issue...and i think it all started from leaving dead weed stems still planted in pots...i remember seeing a blotchy fungus appear on those dead stems near the time in 1999-2000 when this disease started its wholesale slaughter...it was not present before in any form whatsoever
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Shiiiit, crazy what happens in nature hey! Have you started the compost tea treatments yet? I reckon you can knock this fungus on the head with a strong compost tea! Let the microbes work for you!!
 
greencropper

greencropper

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eastcoastmo said:
Shiiiit, crazy what happens in nature hey! Have you started the compost tea treatments yet? I reckon you can knock this fungus on the head with a strong compost tea! Let the microbes work for you!!
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hi man, yes diseases are there to cull out anything not resistant...too bad if your unlucky to be in its path for sure, bro im a bit wary of compost teas as its sometimes hard to get the strength right & it can vary from batch to batch unless everything is done exactly the same time after time, ive killed quite a few plants with strong compost teas in the past, im putting huge amounts of beneficial bacteria with a total myco/tricho/bacterial treatment as it is...double dosage with every single watering man...gotta admit the girls are shining with it lol
 
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