I need some advice asap from experienced gardners

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Manbush

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Okay to break it down i have 3 tents, 2 5'x5' s and 1 10 x10... I have a partner as well who is a bit less knowledgeable than me so id really love multiple opinions

Inside the 10 by 10 we have 5 incredible bulks, 4 strawberry coughs 1 orange bud (dp), 1 oh kush and 1 cheese(dinafem).
We r running 3 de hps and 1 de my (for extra uvs) all lights are running at 1000w (air cooled big boy reflectors) day temps range from typically 80 or up to 92 on super hot days outside. Night temps run typically 73 to 76. All Fahrenheit temps.

Inside the 2 5x5s I have 5 psycofruits and 5 2 vast 2 fast one tent has a small aircooled reflector with a de hps, and the last tent had a single ended "fan cooled" hps. Temps at night only go to like 78 n day have been high 80s which I cannot help.

All plants have been in fox farm soil n i have been doing full strength nutes up till 2 weeks agos. I'm sure they had a nute burn but gave them extra calcium n made a post...a lot of ppl had said nutes burn so i so did a sledge hammer fluah. Things didn't seem to improve (burned leaves don't improve ) new growth seemed to have small burn yet n then last night at 11 i got a text from my partner telling me it looked to him tht it was calcium so het gave them a lot of calcium...right now I'm flushing as to prevent nutrient lock up and I noticed what also appeared to maybe be some phosphorus deficency
Fyi we always use phd water between 6.1 to 6.3 so I o.o ph is good
 

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Chunky Stool

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Which fox farm soil? Happy frog & ocean forest are very different.
I'm thinkin' your soil ph is too low, resulting in lockout. There are soil test kits available that are cheap & easy.
 
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Chunky Stool said:
Which fox farm soil? Happy frog & ocean forest are very different.
I'm thinkin' your soil ph is too low, resulting in lockout. There are soil test kits available that are cheap & easy.
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Ocean forest...n i have a $500 ph/ec/temp meter...I'm set...with excess calcium in the soil shouldn't I stay a bit lower sense the plant absorbs calcium in a higher ph?
 
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Manbush said:
Ocean forest...n i have a $500 ph/ec/temp meter...I'm set...with excess calcium in the soil shouldn't I stay a bit lower sense the plant absorbs calcium in a higher ph?
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How do you know there is excess calcium? FFOF has a low starting ph, around 5.6 which is why some people add lime. So if you started at 5.6 then fed at 6.1, your soil is not the ideal ph of 6.5.
 
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Chunky Stool said:
How do you know there is excess calcium? FFOF has a low starting ph, around 5.6 which is why some people add lime. So if you started at 5.6 then fed at 6.1, your soil is not the ideal ph of 6.5.
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Ocean forest has a buffer in on to keep it at 6.5.... On top of tht buffer which only goes so far every time I have fed or watered the plants the ph has been between 6.1 and 6.3 ph every single time with ppm around 300. According to ed rosenthal, one of the founders of the only university that trains people how to grow the best buds, clearly states that ideal ph for soil is 6.1 to 6.3 safe ph levels are 5.8 to 6.5. If u look at the chart I uploaded u see that compared to other nutrients calcium absorbion doesn't differ too much in the 6.0 to 6.3 range so ph is not it.
2 week ago they showed magnesium def I added garden lime and they seemed to improved then other plants showed calcium def so I disloved a bunch of gardenlime into water an watered the plants..on a form I posted a week and a half ago about the issue many ppl said nute burn so I began flushing and my plants from the tops started to yellow while bottoms are still green somefan leaves are showing sever magnesium/iron issues which leads me to believe nutrient lockout...my partner last night added more calcium
 

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Manbush said:
According to ed rosenthal, one of the founders of the only university that trains people how to grow the best buds, clearly states
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Perhaps you should sign up for classes, I bet they got one that covers how to ask for help and then argue with those that try to help you. Prolly even covers how to start with a known hot soil and then feed full strength nutes for the burn. And don't forget to sign up for Watering with Lime 101

Since none of the advanced growers here have taken any of Ed's courses I doubt we can help, you should ask a mod @sunni @GreatwhiteNorth @rollitup to move this to the new growers forum so they can see what not to do when they are unsure of what the actual problem is ? Might actually help someone
 
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For reference, here's a Jack Herrer in a 5 gal smart pot. Repotted twice, FFOF & water only. It just started to show nitrogen deficiency this week. Also a little heat stress. A proper nutrient tea should fix both issues...
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RM3 said:
Perhaps you should sign up for classes, I bet they got one that covers how to ask for help and then argue with those that try to help you. Prolly even covers how to start with a known hot soil and then feed full strength nutes for the burn. And don't forget to sign up for Watering with Lime 101

Since none of the advanced growers here have taken any of Ed's courses I doubt we can help, you should ask a mod @sunni @GreatwhiteNorth @rollitup to move this to the new growers forum so they can see what not to do when they are unsure of what the actual problem is ? Might actually help someone
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Owl how I'm arguing? I'm stating the research n if I could take some classes I would. As for the nutes sorry I took advice from a fert company had explosive growth until now n starting losing some fan leaves too early
Chunky Stool said:
For reference, here's a Jack Herrer in a 5 gal smart pot. Repotted twice, FFOF & water only. It just started to show nitrogen deficiency this week. Also a little heat stress. A proper nutrient tea should fix both issues...
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Thanks for the help chunky...so to just to clarify it looks deficient on nutes n i should give a special nutrient tea? Any recomendation?
 
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Oops
Got confused. Same avatar, starts with M...
Yes, nutrient tea is your friend if you want to stay organic. Synthetic nutes are also fine. It's a preference. My goal is always high brix & I've had great results with compost/nutrient teas.
 
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Wow u n rm3 r something... I asked for advice I'm suspecting nutrient lockout due to calcium on a different post many ppl were thinking nute burn...I was more or less looking for ppl to either say yeah looks like nutrient lockout or no or if it looks more like nute burn...I can adjust my to 6.5 not a problem but do to the plant absorption chart tht I posted as well as the one in eds book I was asking if it would make it worse putting my ph up sense calcium is more easily absorbed. Just raising a question from ur answer. N no I never called u a liar just had somewhat contradictory info...which it may not even really contradict what u said, and bringing it to light...cool down everyone I'm not here to offend to tell anyone their advice is bad nor that I know everytjing....so ill be clear according to the worst parts would u say nute lock or burn or both and should I just give it water at 6.5 ph?
 
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