De-leafing

KryptoBud

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Maybe, i ca't see how doing this^^^ increases yield unless you're trying to grow stem. Spending the time to veg a plant and cutting off everything but the top seems like a huge waste of time and money.
 

KryptoBud

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That's amazing......triple you say, wow. Lol
I was hoping for a logical explanation the benifits of running your plants over with a lawn mower. I'm always game for learning different tips and techniques to increase yeild. I don't I'm gonna get it, now i need to find a way to put all the leaves back on.
 

widowmaker31

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Logic - plants BRIX level how much sugar they are producing which is your engine for building fruit - now the technique I use is like so:

Flip 12/12 - then wait 10-14 days of the transitioning at around that time you start week 1 of flower - middle week or so - I start to defoliate but not all - have to understand the nodal spacing, lateral branching, stem thickness, leaf development, etc. then take anywhere from 50-75% off- then keep on feeding / watering as usual.

Week 3 - Defoliate Again same amount -
intermittently thru week 5 remove large sugar absorbing fan leaves - you want to leave equal amount but as little as necessaryIMG_0308.JPG IMG_0355.JPG as you want the fruit to absorb the nutrients and water to SWELL and therefore increase your weight and a happy harvest.
 

Budley Doright

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Logic - plants BRIX level how much sugar they are producing which is your engine for building fruit - now the technique I use is like so:

Flip 12/12 - then wait 10-14 days of the transitioning at around that time you start week 1 of flower - middle week or so - I start to defoliate but not all - have to understand the nodal spacing, lateral branching, stem thickness, leaf development, etc. then take anywhere from 50-75% off- then keep on feeding / watering as usual.

Week 3 - Defoliate Again same amount -
intermittently thru week 5 remove large sugar absorbing fan leaves - you want to leave equal amount but as little as necessaryView attachment 3693094 View attachment 3693095 as you want the fruit to absorb the nutrients and water to SWELL and therefore increase your weight and a happy harvest.
It does look impressive!!! Every time I see this I get the urge to try it lol.
 

KryptoBud

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Logic - plants BRIX level how much sugar they are producing which is your engine for building fruit - now the technique I use is like so:

Flip 12/12 - then wait 10-14 days of the transitioning at around that time you start week 1 of flower - middle week or so - I start to defoliate but not all - have to understand the nodal spacing, lateral branching, stem thickness, leaf development, etc. then take anywhere from 50-75% off- then keep on feeding / watering as usual.

Week 3 - Defoliate Again same amount -
intermittently thru week 5 remove large sugar absorbing fan leaves - you want to leave equal amount but as little as necessaryView attachment 3693094 View attachment 3693095 as you want the fruit to absorb the nutrients and water to SWELL and therefore increase your weight and a happy harvest.
Awsome thank you for the reply. This is the first post I've seen about defoliation that doesn't mention "leaves are blocking light from bud sights".
Your plants look great. You wouldn't know they have been touched compared to the pic's in the tutorial posted above. Next round I'll have to cut a few extra clones and try it for myself. Thanks again
 

vhawk

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Lots of plants respond vigorously to defoliation, and heavy pruning. Hybrid tea roses for example. But this argument won't go anywhere. It's too emotionally charged.
 

SoOLED

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I don't mess with them too much: plants de-leaf themselves, you see dried ones, all the yellow ones closest to the middle of the base, don't get any light so they die. and fall off.

de-leafing sounds like a lot of work, not so much something I want to do.
 

Budley Doright

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I don't mess with them too much: plants de-leaf themselves, you see dried ones, all the yellow ones closest to the middle of the base, don't get any light so they die. and fall off.

de-leafing sounds like a lot of work, not so much something I want to do.
Actually I've noticed that now that I am getting things dialled in I don't get any leaf drop at all, I was surprised to find how much crap was growing underneath everything once I harvested half way down. I had way too many plants to close and no light penetration. The point is it was green and lush but yup not much bud production, lots of oil though lol. Not sure if I would have done better pulling leaves off due to my fuck up of being greedy :(.
 
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KryptoBud

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Lots of plants respond vigorously to defoliation, and heavy pruning. Hybrid tea roses for example. But this argument won't go anywhere. It's too emotionally charged.
You're probably right. There are a few subjects that'll be a pissing match until the end of time on these forums. I'm not beleiver of defoliation. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, but I've never tried it. Ten years ago if you told me cutting the top of my plant off or rolling and breaking the stem to bend it over could be benificial I would've called you an idiot. Weather widow's method works or not who knows, seems like a better explanation than leaves blocking light.
 

vhawk

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I don't mess with them too much: plants de-leaf themselves, you see dried ones, all the yellow ones closest to the middle of the base, don't get any light so they die. and fall off.

de-leafing sounds like a lot of work, not so much something I want to do.
Hybrid tea roses defoliate on their own as well, but unpruned roses look and produce shit for flowers. Some plants respond well to the right stressors
 

dandyrandy

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I remove lower small branches that don't get much light. I'm in week 4 and need to remove some bottom trash for the last time. I don't pull top leaves. Less trash on the bottom bigger buds on top. But I grow in a confined space.
 

Chicsgro2

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I defoliate a few times but their is a very specific way to doing it be careful doing this the wrong way can stunt growth and probably cause other problems I don't experience because I was taught the right way also be careful for some of the well known members will call u all kinds of stupid for using defoliation techniques
You spoke my thoughts exactly!! I am a mild defoliator and an lst-er. My girls do fine. The key is restraint/moderation. ANYTHING over done is going to cause problems!
 

dabbindylan

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This whole thread the one thing that should be taken from this is everyones methods vary...i recommend defoliaton or ur buds will be fluffy...if u strip ur plant of all leaves thats bad
 

Slab

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This whole thread the one thing that should be taken from this is everyones methods vary...i recommend defoliaton or ur buds will be fluffy...if u strip ur plant of all leaves thats bad
the plant intentionally inhibits growth of the lower branches, Light intensity has nothing to do with it.
Topping shuts off apical dominance response long enough for lower branches to grow uninhibited.
 
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Phytium hater

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Anyway if you can expose a branch or it's parts which have been hidden from proper light it will ensure the buds to ripen up properly..
(yep its needles to say, but I say it anyway)...
you can be sure that any buds which are not getting light properly ,will somehow be raw and necessary to ripen some more after the top growth is cut off..
personally I prefer to have 1 harvest from my grows...so yep defoliating in this camp,,,
if no light distribution problems then no need for defoliating..rather lst if it corrects the problem...my 20 cents
 
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