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Fogdog

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Trump may not fit the mold of the 20th century fascist but it's the best way to describe the kind of policies he advocates and the type of people he attracts. He's more like a Mussolini. Not a Hitler..

Donald Trump Is a Fascist
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/11/donald_trump_is_a_fascist_it_is_the_political_label_that_best_describes.html

This isn’t a partisan attack. It is the political label that best describes what the GOP front-runner has become.
“Donald Trump as fascist” has gone from hyperbolic to mainstream. After endorsing extreme measures in the aftermath of the Paris attacks—from registering Muslim Americans to closing mosques—assorted writers, observers, and political operatives began using fascist to describe Trump’s approach. “Forced federal registration of U.S. citizens, based on religious identity, is fascism. Period. Nothing else to call it,”tweeted Jeb Bush adviser John Noonan. “I just don’t agree with that kind of thing,”declared alleged presidential candidate Jim Gilmore. “I’ve said it’s fascist talk.” “I’m still not sure it’s 100 percent clear that Donald Trump really understands that he’s a neo-fascist,” wrote Michael Tomasky for the Daily Beast.
 
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schnooby

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Fogdog said:
Well that bit about all of the Mexicans coming illegally to the US are rapists and criminals would be a good start at showing how racist the Donald is towards latinos. Are you really so deaf that you didn't hear that? Or maybe you can't remember that far back (8 month, LOL) when it was all he was talking about. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/election-2016-donald-trump-defends-calling-mexican-immigrants-rapists/

He won't get elected so don't worry about how his presidency would affect world opinion of the US.

Look up the word isolationist. This isn't a place for remedial tutoring.

Trump's base of supporters are the old white guy losers in this country. They are the high school drop outs that managed to make ends meet about 20 years ago but are now out of work and have stopped even trying. Add to them their retarded children and the few women willing to stay married to them and that's about all he has. Its a startlingly large number of people but still a minority that can't possibly swing this election. Still, Trump is at least smart enough to recognize who wan't him to be prez. Trump himself said "I love the poorly educated". He knows who supports him..
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I realize after observing and being a part of numerous Trump related conversations over the last year that detached logic and sound reasoning are seldom in the drivers seat.

Instead what i usually see are alot of logical fallacies, gross generalizations, caricatures, hyperbole, sarcasm, oversimplification and emotionalism. I think most of us agree that resorting to such manners of communication, while perhaps fun and entertaining, rarely bring clarity.

I wont be calling anyone out here as i think to the observant reader it will be abundantly clear who here and in other venues are engaging in meaningful discussion meant to arive at understanding versus divisive inflammatory rhetoric.


One thing is for certain, even if mutual friendly understanding and discussion cannot be had, we will all find out fairly soon who was right or wrong about the many things weve heard bantered about.

I can only hope no matter what happens in the election that cooler, more rational heads will prevail in leading the future narrative of the country.
 
Fogdog

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schnooby said:
I realize after observing and being a part of numerous Trump related conversations over the last year that detached logic and sound reasoning are seldom in the drivers seat.

Instead what i usually see are alot of logical fallacies, gross generalizations, caricatures, hyperbole, sarcasm, oversimplification and emotionalism. I think most of us agree that resorting to such manners of communication, while perhaps fun and entertaining, rarely bring clarity.

I wont be calling anyone out here as i think to the observant reader it will be abundantly clear who here and in other venues are engaging in meaningful discussion meant to arive at understanding versus divisive inflammatory rhetoric.


One thing is for certain, even if mutual friendly understanding and discussion cannot be had, we will all find out fairly soon who was right or wrong about the many things weve heard bantered about.

I can only hope no matter what happens in the election that cooler, more rational heads will prevail in leading the future narrative of the country.
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Man you are completely out of touch. Everything I said is the plain truth and verifiable if you bother to read. Not surprised that a wingnut rejects anything that is not faux news.
 
schnooby

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Fogdog, its typical of moderates to be castigated by both the left and the right.

i dont watch tv, hence i dont watch faux news. i read news articles however, and fox news artices make up about 5 to 10 percent of my normal intake of articles. not sure that makes me a conservative.

Im pretty much just standing back at a distance and watching the frothing throngs of true believers go at each other and enjoying the show.

i voted twice in my life and both were for democrats who werent elected (gore, kerry)

i dont vote anymore.
 
schnooby

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UncleBuck said:
moderates don't cite alex jones.
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your comments appear to be full of alot of assumptions and stereotyping. I happen to listen to and watch a wide variety of media because im open minded, i like variety, i like diversity and i like my views challenged by people who think differently than i do. I realize that puts me in a very small minority of people but im okay with that as life tends to be alot more interesting when one isnt surroundimg themselves with self reinforcing opinions, views, information and the like. i think they call that confirmation bias...you should look into it sometime..
 
UncleBuck

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schnooby said:
your comments appear to be full of alot of assumptions and stereotyping. I happen to listen to and watch a wide variety of media because im open minded, i like variety, i like diversity and i like my views challenged by people who think differently than i do. I realize that puts me in a very small minority of people but im okay with that as life tends to be alot more interesting when one isnt surroundimg themselves with self reinforcing opinions, views, information and the like. i think they call that confirmation bias...you should look into it sometime..
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i didn't make any assumption. you told us you listened to alex jones and actually believe what he says.

then you tried to call yourself a moderate, rather than the batshit insane extremist that you are.

that was right after you asked us how donald trump could possibly be seen as racist.

it' not difficult to put two and two together.
 
schnooby

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resorting to name calling and preferring the use of denigrating language pretty much defines what kind of a person who are as well.


You apparently are not able to parse the subtler nuances of language since my reference to alex jones was a reference and not an appeal to authority, re read my comment:

"this is wild. Alex Jones has been saying for a while that normalizing pedophilia was next on the NWO agenda and as crazy as that sounded for the last couple years this article lends credibility to his warnings of the war on traditional gender roles and normal human sexuality....."


Now if youll care to notice exactly what i said, i said aj said there were efforts to normalize non traditional sexuality and that the article tended to lend credibility to the claim. Obviously this was before it became clear the article was fake. So ill go slow for you, nowhere did i say i explicitly agreed with his assertion, rather that he had said it it, and that operating under the presumption the article was reporting a true event it would tend to lend credence to ajs narrative. Now.....if you cant see the difference between those two things theres probably not much anyone can do to help your cognitive dysfunction.

Its already quite clear by the tone of your comments that you are unwilling to admit any mistakes you make in your analysis and interpretation of information being shared, so i wont endeavor to entreat your consideration.
 
UncleBuck

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schnooby said:
resorting to name calling and preferring the use of denigrating language pretty much defines what kind of a person who are as well.


You apparently are not able to parse the subtler nuances of language since my reference to alex jones was a reference and not an appeal to authority, re read my comment:

"this is wild. Alex Jones has been saying for a while that normalizing pedophilia was next on the NWO agenda and as crazy as that sounded for the last couple years this article lends credibility to his warnings of the war on traditional gender roles and normal human sexuality....."


Now if youll care to notice exactly what i said, i said aj said there were efforts to normalize non traditional sexuality and that the article tended to lend credibility to the claim. Obviously this was before it became clear the article was fake. So ill go slow for you, nowhere did i say i explicitly agreed with his assertion, rather that he had said it it, and that operating under the presumption the article was reporting a true event it would tend to lend credence to ajs narrative. Now.....if you cant see the difference between those two things theres probably not much anyone can do to help your cognitive dysfunction.

Its already quite clear by the tone of your comments that you are unwilling to admit any mistakes you make in your analysis and interpretation of information being shared, so i wont endeavor to entreat your consideration.
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so you were duped by a fake article, which led you to feel reinforced in your stated belief that "normalizing pedophilia is next on the NWO agenda", a belief you picked up from notorious propagandist and extremist douchebag alex jones, and that is supposed to show us all how moderate you are?

jesusfuck. you are just too stupid to even exist.
 
coloradolivin

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http://www.vice.com/read/what-actual-mexican-criminals-think-about-donald-trump-817

>"They told us Obama wouldn't send us back if they arrested us, as long as we didn't get busted for a violent crime," Lopez tells VICE. They also told them exactly where they should go: Oregon. "It's because we can get a driver's license there, no questions asked, and the background checks ain't shit."

>In addition to encouraging the deportees to return to the states, some Mexican agents allegedly offered valid US identification for sale. "I'm a new Oregon citizen," Lopez says, laughing. "I even got a US passport and I went to Canada with it. And you know what else? I can vote!"

>A self-proclaimed "anchor baby" named Ruben Sepulveda who is serving ten years for afederal drug conspiracypoints out another flaw in Trump's plans to deport all the immigrants who have come to the US illegally: He says he has "literally dozens" of family members who broke the law by crossing the border, and all have the documents that they need to stay here.

>"I know people won't want to hear this, but all of them vote with their fake IDs, all of them collect income tax with their fake IDs, and all of them pay taxes—under aliases."

>"A wall isn't going to change anything, new mandatory minimums for illegal migrants will only fill up these prisons and Americans can't afford to keep it up. So everyone might as well just take a deep breath, enjoy the Donald Trump show, but realize all 30 million illegals—yes, I said 30 million, because I think there is way more that 11 million—are here to stay. Our people run the border, they are ICE [Immigrations and Customs Enforcement], we are becoming the law, and it's only matter of time before we take over Congress.

>"Just get over it, people," Sepulveda says. "It's going to be OK."

This is what illegals think of you america. just get over it and let yourself be taken advantage of!
 
nitro harley

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londonfog said:
are you still voting GOP if they still the nomination from Trump ?
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I won't correct your spelling because you can't afford another down grade on your papers. Now back to your question, TRUMP will win and crush Hillary in the general. sorry about your luck. TRUMP!
 
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