super silver haze (regs)

mucha_mota

mucha_mota

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if you dont like mns , from who to grab super silver haze? regs only.

im seeing nirvana as the only option.
 
vostok

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One of my all time favorite classics, and getting to difficult to find in 'merica ?

The best of the best has to be Mr Nice's version thats the closets to the original

the others are poor copies, the sales blurb:

A champion of champions since winning its hat-trick at the 1997, 1998, and 1999 High Times Cannabis Cups
and comprising of the most commercial strains known to the uncivilized world: Skunk, NL and Haze.
Such achievements confer an undoubtedly regal pedigree.
It has an excellent breed for those who wish to possess the stash of stashes and leaves one gasping for reality.
This complex hybrid is in the cutting edge in practical Haze hybrids, designed to astound the grower and consumer alike.
Recommendation is unnecessary as most people can not see the Haze for their daze.

(https://mrnice.nl/dhtml/strains.php?id=35)
 
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mucha_mota

mucha_mota

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vostok said:

One of my all time favorite classics, and getting to difficult to find in 'merica ?

The best of the best has to be Mr Nice's version thats the closets to the original

the others are poor copies, the sales blurb:

A champion of champions since winning its hat-trick at the 1997, 1998, and 1999 High Times Cannabis Cups
and comprising of the most commercial strains known to the uncivilized world: Skunk, NL and Haze.
Such achievements confer an undoubtedly regal pedigree.
It has an excellent breed for those who wish to possess the stash of stashes and leaves one gasping for reality.
This complex hybrid is in the cutting edge in practical Haze hybrids, designed to astound the grower and consumer alike.
Recommendation is unnecessary as most people can not see the Haze for their daze.

(https://mrnice.nl/dhtml/strains.php?id=35)
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how old is that pic? when did you last score ssh seed?
 
mucha_mota

mucha_mota

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well. maybe you're right. looking around some more. its either nirvana or mns. snatch a pack of ssh from mns i will & a pack of that nl x afghan.
 
greencropper

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ive got probably the last sealed breeders pack of greenhouse SSH regs released, dont even know whether to pop em or just feed the budgie?
 
mucha_mota

mucha_mota

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id prefer the dynasty ssh seed. i wish there was a pack out there for me. maybe i get lucky someday. i remember seeing one go on dankbidz for $40.
 
bluntmassa1

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I got the MNS one going that Mango Haze is damn good so I'm guessing that SSH is going to kick ass. You can just look at that forum they got a bunch of grows of it never heard much about Nirvana's let alone seen a grow of it.
 
D_Urbmon

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mucha_mota said:
id prefer the dynasty ssh seed. i wish there was a pack out there for me. maybe i get lucky someday. i remember seeing one go on dankbidz for $40.
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There is that spiderbite v2 at Sannies right now. But it's only half SSH - the dad. The mom is WW/C99 I believe. Or maybe I have them mixed up?
 
vostok

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greencropper said:
ive got probably the last sealed breeders pack of greenhouse SSH regs released, dont even know whether to pop em or just feed the budgie?
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Arjan and the boys from Green House copying / pirating quality strains then flipping them of as their own work ....

yeah right, tho I am curious how they would compare to the 'original' from Nice,

would be a challenge ???

Shanitbaba grew/breed both SSH and white widow

once Shanti had a fallout he went to Mr Nice, Shanti's WW was then sold as Black Widow

leaving Green House to rename any convenient plant as their White Widow

of Which They Did...!!!

Desperate People do Desperate things

Good Luck
 
Castroman

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mucha_mota said:
if you dont like mns , from who to grab super silver haze? regs only.
I'm seeing nirvana as the only option.
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You can get selected SSH and Mango Haze crosses from Beanhoarder at hempdepot.ca, they are offered separated by pheno and go for a reasonable price. There are many positive reports about them too. http://hempdepot.ca/seeds/Beanho/

I like this "Haze Mix" going for just $20 for 10 regular seeds:

Haze Hybrid Mix: Indoor. A random 10 seed mix of various Haze hybrids including SSH, Mango Haze and Afghan Haze. Indoor flowering times 9 to 11 weeks
 
greencropper

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vostok said:
Arjan and the boys from Green House copying / pirating quality strains then flipping them of as their own work ....

yeah right, tho I am curious how they would compare to the 'original' from Nice,

would be a challenge ???

Shanitbaba grew/breed both SSH and white widow

once Shanti had a fallout he went to Mr Nice, Shanti's WW was then sold as Black Widow

leaving Green House to rename any convenient plant as their White Widow

of Which They Did...!!!

Desperate People do Desperate things

Good Luck
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yup...budgie feed sounds the logical choice...lifes too short to waste time growing unknowns since ive got other top seedstock
 
Castroman

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@mucha_mota I stumbled upon this post of yours where you say you wouldn't buy seeds from Loompa "I got on an ngr special picked up nearly 20+ beans & cant stand dude (and his cronies) after (strain) research i did. his posts are mostly arrogant to say the least." and it's not clear to me whether this dislike is based on your experience with his strains or just his character flaws. I'm asking because I am considering growing some Yeti seeds (beans are a gift, I can't afford his ridiculous prices). I share your views on pollen chuckers disguised as "breeders" and would appreciate your clarification.
 
mucha_mota

mucha_mota

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Castroman said:
@mucha_mota I stumbled upon this post of yours where you say you wouldn't buy seeds from Loompa "I got on an ngr special picked up nearly 20+ beans & cant stand dude (and his cronies) after (strain) research i did. his posts are mostly arrogant to say the least." and it's not clear to me whether this dislike is based on your experience with his strains or just his character flaws. I'm asking because I am considering growing some Yeti seeds (beans are a gift, I can't afford his ridiculous prices). I share your views on pollen chuckers disguised as "breeders" and would appreciate your clarification.
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1) he's a dick
2) so many reports of hermi. not a few. lots.

seen 100 (joke) disclaimers about keeping a diligent eye on any plants.
ive got 3 packs of his gear in the freezer. no plans to run it right now.

never been a fan of shanti. this is why i was looking for ssh seeds. plus i want something done & selected. i checked some mns grows of ssh. on the fence. i contacted brad at hemp depot for straght ssh seeds. no mix. i dont see them on beanhoarders list.
 
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Castroman

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mucha_mota said:
1) he's a dick
2) so many reports of hermi. not a few. lots.

seen 100 (joke) disclaimers about keeping a diligent eye on any plants.
ive got 3 packs of his gear in the freezer. no plans to run it right now.

never been a fan of shanti. this is why i was looking for ssh seeds. plus i want something done & selected. i checked some mns grows of ssh. on the fence. i contacted brad at hemp depot for straght ssh seeds. no mix. i dont see them on beanhoarders list.
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Thanks for the reply. I have another idea how to get SSH seeds, but it's not for the impatient: Mr. Nice's Auctions. Currently there are no SSH listings, but it looks they give all their strains equal time on the block and prices look good. They have this Mango Haze auction, 15 seeds currently going for 14 euros with 15 hours left, which they call a "parallel line to the Super Silver Haze" and has the same 25% NL, 25% Skunk #1 and 50% Haze composition:

This strain is a parallel line to the Super Silver Haze, i.e. it has the same Haze father and the mother is a sister of the SSH. Accordingly, the genetic makeup of this strain is 25% NL5, 25% Skunk and 50% Haze. The expected flowering times depend very much on the selection of the mother but in general will vary from 8 to 11 weeks, so it is a practical 50% sativa for indoor growing. It is suggested that if the room does not have much height, go directly into 12/12 with a rooted clone or seed. This will still give a 1-1.5 meter plant. Yields of this strain are expected to produce between 450-550 grams per square meter (based on using minimum of 600 watts lamps). Lower branches may be pruned during the grow or pre flower phase, so the Mango strain puts its energy into the cola flower clusters. This is a good way to manage this plant if growing more plants per square meter than normal is preferred. The resistance to moulds is a positive feature of this plant, both for indoor and outdoor growers. Mango is a very special plant if one is impressed by resin production, and the aroma is of fully ripe mangos. It is special plant affecting people's cerebral areas. The plant's ancestors were HTCC winners of numerous awards, so its pedigree is outstanding. It has been in the making for some years now, but we at MNS feel it is as ready as it ever will be. If only the serpent in the Garden of Eden had tempted Eve with a Mango Haze instead of a mere apple, the whole world would have understood so much more.
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And in case someone has the same question I had, as to the differences between SSH and Mango Haze, etc. I found the post below by Shantibaba (which I know you Mucha Mota dislike) which explains that while both SSH and Mango Haze have the same NL5 x Haze "C" mother, SSH has a Skunk x Haze "C" as father while Mango's pollen donor is a Skunk x Haze "A".

Neville's Haze is made from Haze C male which is made by two pure haze parents from 1969, then the female side of NH is made from Haze A combined to NL5 or NL5Haze A where Haze A was also made by two pure Haze parents also from 1969. Haze A is no longer alive, only Haze C male is along with several other different sativa lines, but plants with the lineage of Haze A are still alive and carrying the genes within.
Super Silver Haze is made up of Haze C combined to Skunk 1 or Skunk HzC which is the male side, and the female side is Haze C combined to NL5 or NL5HzC.
Mango Haze comes from a parallel cross same as SSH but with one difference: Haze A male combined to Sk 1 or Sk HzA being the male plant, the female is NL5HzC.
La Nina is the Widow father bred to a pure Haze female, neither A or C by the way so I hope that clears up all your doubts once and for all.

That is the breeding of those plants. Haze A is no longer a male alive, but it's still alive in the ancestry of some of the plants used in all these breeds. I do not have secrets about breeding but given the same seed batches we could all still create something different, it boils down to selection.

No one other than Simon at Serious Seeds who follows breeding plants like we do. Most Dutch seed companies use females plants obtained from seed batches that were passed on to them or sent to them, making their origins a little doubtful at certain stages. The whole seed industry based alot of things on Neville's origins in fact , but none except Sensi Seed had the parent plants to replicate things time and time again. Whether plants dies or were lost to disease over the years... well, most companies would probably not tell anyone, but think about it.How many back ups of parent plants would you need in how many countries to be sure never to loose an important line? As enforcement on growers gets more and more restricting rooms get found etc. And the law of averages catches up on you. My last problem with the Swiss authorities I lost all plants in my library, some 42 moms and dads. Luckily we keep backup of all the most important plants in 5 different countries and have done for years. If we had not had done this then we too would have lost alot of heirlooms. I do keep original batches of seed from years ago also in several places just in case I have to go all the way back to the drawing board to do selection again...but that is as bad as it gets for us.
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Bubbashine

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vostok said:
Arjan and the boys from Green House copying / pirating quality strains then flipping them of as their own work ....

yeah right, tho I am curious how they would compare to the 'original' from Nice,

would be a challenge ???

Shanitbaba grew/breed both SSH and white widow

once Shanti had a fallout he went to Mr Nice, Shanti's WW was then sold as Black Widow

leaving Green House to rename any convenient plant as their White Widow

of Which They Did...!!!

Desperate People do Desperate things

Good Luck
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Not so long ago they jacked Huckleberry from Dynasty Genetics.... S1 it & calling it the same name, but Professor P hit up Facebook and got people to call them out on the GHS forum, they changed the name in the end, but fuck them and the way they do business.
 
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