Growshop refugees

KLITE

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Hi all

Yesterday I went to have a some dabs at my local growshop, im in good terms with the workers.

So this guy comes in and, i SWEAR this, the guy asked for thc reducer! Im not joking, he expected thered be somne liquid nute that can reduce thc....

Literally 5 mins later this woman who ressembled a vw van with rastas, im not joking, asks for the weed Bob Marley SMOKES!, not smoked SMOKES! Claiming it was called sensitiva marley. Go figure

And if that shit wasnt enough a guy that looked like a gnome! or those irish one the lepreuchauns yes them lot! Comes in pissed off AS FUCK! almost insulting the workers klnowledge claiming the grow closets they have on display were upside down. No matter what me or the other worker told him you couldnt convince him, til i figured man, look at the brand writting, DARKBOX, its upright innit? He just says nah thats factory mistake.

Got any of them?
 

tyler.durden

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Fucking LEO likes the low-hanging fruit. Lazy assholes...

The grow house next door

Two teachers. Two hundred marijuana plants. Two years in court.
By Ben Joravsky @joravben and Mick Dumke @mickeyd1971

In the basement of a house on South Exchange, investigators found lights hung from motorized tracks, a timer-based watering system, and nearly 200 pot plants.

On December 5, 2009, Cook County sheriff's police sergeant Patrick Donovan spotted two men in a white, windowless cargo van on the loading dock of a shop called the Brew and Grow, tucked between Elston and the Kennedy expressway. Donovan watched from his car 40 yards away as the men—one of them medium height and stocky, the other tall and gangly—loaded large tables, fans, and four-foot filters into the van.

The Brew and Grow, which has since moved, sells tools and equipment for home beer making and hydroponic gardening, including the fertilizers and nutrients to grow everything from arugula to broccoli to marijuana. And Cook County sheriff's police routinely stake out the store and other retailers like it, surveying who buys what.

There's no evidence they're interested in the broccoli growers.

As the van pulled away, Donovan trailed it 17 miles to a one-story house with green aluminum siding on the 10000 block of South Exchange. South of the Skyway and walking distance from the Indiana state line, it's a quiet block of modest homes owned by city workers and Hammond casino employees.

From a safe distance, Donovan watched the van pull into a garage, and he was able to catch sight of the two men unloading the cargo. He then continued to follow the van as it left the house and drove another 11 miles to a condominium complex in Bridgeport.

Over the next few days, Donovan ran the van's license plate number and discovered it had been rented by 45-year-old Adrian Ortiz. He pulled a digital image of Ortiz from a driver's license database and recognized him as the stockier of the two men. Through a property search, Donovan discovered that Ortiz and a 47-year-old woman named Heidi Keller had purchased the house on Exchange six weeks earlier for $65,000.

At Donovan's behest, a Cook County grand jury subpoenaed records from ComEd to see how much power the property on South Exchange was consuming. As Donovan was well aware, the type of lighting rig necessary to grow broccoli—or pot—consumes an inordinate amount of energy. After comparing the bill to those of two other houses on the same block, Donovan found that electrical use in Ortiz's house had surged.

Donovan spent the next few weeks conducting surveillance on the house at different times of the day and night. Neighbors saw him and wondered why someone was sitting in a car on their street, but when they approached, Donovan drove off. He discovered that the basement windows of Ortiz's house had been covered with dark plastic—and through a gap he could see "an extremely bright light." He also repeatedly examined the garbage bins in the alley and found them empty—except once, when he discovered a single Jewel bag with a wet pot leaf inside.

With that leaf, authorities launched a case against Ortiz and Keller that would continue for more than two years.

Over the past year, the Reader has chronicled a number of problems with how marijuana laws are enforced in Chicago: they're applied differently among different racial groups, clog the courts, and consume millions of dollars and thousands of hours that could be used on other critical needs.

Acknowledging the costly inconsistencies, city officials recently joined dozens of suburbs and downstate towns in decriminalizing the possession of small amounts of pot. Meanwhile, federal law enforcement officials are focused on breaking up the often-violent criminal networks that supply area marijuana. At the top of the feds' list is the Mexico-based Sinaloa cartel, which—in a story that's commonly cited as evidence of the operation's reach—was found four years ago to be cultivating about 10,000 plants deep in a national forest in northern Wisconsin.

The thing is, the weed is going to come from somewhere—and nobody wants to get it from violent drug gangs. All of which raises an interesting question: What is a just way to deal with someone knowingly breaking the law by attempting to peaceably grow the marijuana that millions of ordinary and otherwise law-abiding people regularly consume?

In that context, it seems a bit surprising that the Cook County sheriff's department has in recent years poured resources into targeting a different kind of marijuana source than the gangs and cartels under investigation by the feds: grow houses.

Investigations of this kind are laborious, relying on stakeouts, surveillance, subpoenas, and search warrants, followed by dramatic arrests, colorful press releases, and photographs that make the news. The sheriff's police have even extended their investigations beyond the Cook County limits, to Romeoville, in Will County, and Chesterton, in northwest Indiana.
 

lahadaextranjera

Well-Known Member
Fucking LEO likes the low-hanging fruit. Lazy assholes...

The grow house next door

Two teachers. Two hundred marijuana plants. Two years in court.
By Ben Joravsky @joravben and Mick Dumke @mickeyd1971

In the basement of a house on South Exchange, investigators found lights hung from motorized tracks, a timer-based watering system, and nearly 200 pot plants.

On December 5, 2009, Cook County sheriff's police sergeant Patrick Donovan spotted two men in a white, windowless cargo van on the loading dock of a shop called the Brew and Grow, tucked between Elston and the Kennedy expressway. Donovan watched from his car 40 yards away as the men—one of them medium height and stocky, the other tall and gangly—loaded large tables, fans, and four-foot filters into the van.

The Brew and Grow, which has since moved, sells tools and equipment for home beer making and hydroponic gardening, including the fertilizers and nutrients to grow everything from arugula to broccoli to marijuana. And Cook County sheriff's police routinely stake out the store and other retailers like it, surveying who buys what.

There's no evidence they're interested in the broccoli growers.

As the van pulled away, Donovan trailed it 17 miles to a one-story house with green aluminum siding on the 10000 block of South Exchange. South of the Skyway and walking distance from the Indiana state line, it's a quiet block of modest homes owned by city workers and Hammond casino employees.

From a safe distance, Donovan watched the van pull into a garage, and he was able to catch sight of the two men unloading the cargo. He then continued to follow the van as it left the house and drove another 11 miles to a condominium complex in Bridgeport.

Over the next few days, Donovan ran the van's license plate number and discovered it had been rented by 45-year-old Adrian Ortiz. He pulled a digital image of Ortiz from a driver's license database and recognized him as the stockier of the two men. Through a property search, Donovan discovered that Ortiz and a 47-year-old woman named Heidi Keller had purchased the house on Exchange six weeks earlier for $65,000.

At Donovan's behest, a Cook County grand jury subpoenaed records from ComEd to see how much power the property on South Exchange was consuming. As Donovan was well aware, the type of lighting rig necessary to grow broccoli—or pot—consumes an inordinate amount of energy. After comparing the bill to those of two other houses on the same block, Donovan found that electrical use in Ortiz's house had surged.

Donovan spent the next few weeks conducting surveillance on the house at different times of the day and night. Neighbors saw him and wondered why someone was sitting in a car on their street, but when they approached, Donovan drove off. He discovered that the basement windows of Ortiz's house had been covered with dark plastic—and through a gap he could see "an extremely bright light." He also repeatedly examined the garbage bins in the alley and found them empty—except once, when he discovered a single Jewel bag with a wet pot leaf inside.

With that leaf, authorities launched a case against Ortiz and Keller that would continue for more than two years.

Over the past year, the Reader has chronicled a number of problems with how marijuana laws are enforced in Chicago: they're applied differently among different racial groups, clog the courts, and consume millions of dollars and thousands of hours that could be used on other critical needs.

Acknowledging the costly inconsistencies, city officials recently joined dozens of suburbs and downstate towns in decriminalizing the possession of small amounts of pot. Meanwhile, federal law enforcement officials are focused on breaking up the often-violent criminal networks that supply area marijuana. At the top of the feds' list is the Mexico-based Sinaloa cartel, which—in a story that's commonly cited as evidence of the operation's reach—was found four years ago to be cultivating about 10,000 plants deep in a national forest in northern Wisconsin.

The thing is, the weed is going to come from somewhere—and nobody wants to get it from violent drug gangs. All of which raises an interesting question: What is a just way to deal with someone knowingly breaking the law by attempting to peaceably grow the marijuana that millions of ordinary and otherwise law-abiding people regularly consume?

In that context, it seems a bit surprising that the Cook County sheriff's department has in recent years poured resources into targeting a different kind of marijuana source than the gangs and cartels under investigation by the feds: grow houses.

Investigations of this kind are laborious, relying on stakeouts, surveillance, subpoenas, and search warrants, followed by dramatic arrests, colorful press releases, and photographs that make the news. The sheriff's police have even extended their investigations beyond the Cook County limits, to Romeoville, in Will County, and Chesterton, in northwest Indiana.
Lucky they were small time!

Check what the pensioners get up to out here!!? 950 plants. Maybe they thought 1,000 was the limit? No.

You seen this Klite? En Blanes.he didn't want to open the garage! Read it! Lol. They have detained a 67 yr old and are looking for the landlord whos a 69yr old Frenchman! Go on you two!! Lol

#nevertooold

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KLITE

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Lol i just remembered once this guy at the bar, speaking like he owned growing marijuana and everyone had to pay him for a patent lease, Goin on about having 2 meter tall plants inside the house and shit like that, im like lets see some pics.

Man he had 4 250w lights hung from like the corners of the ceiling pointing towards the ''plants'' like a football stadium it was fucking EPIC. And hes like sheeeet i even measure the ph of the water with a highly advanced instrument. and the 2 meter tall literally twigs were on like 2 liter pots.

@lahadaextranjera lol i hadnt seen that! Honestly ive come across the crappiest weeds ivbe ever seen my whole life here in spain. Lol the other day saw some bud for 2 euro a gram fulllll of borothrytis and the guy saying nah thats the thc! Thats why its all white!

people here are sooooo full of themselves i bet they eat their own shit for dessert fairly often.
 

KLITE

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Lol funniest thng abt that grow is im sure that even if theyd gone a few weeks later not much more buds would be on them plants! Lol what a joke of a grow, looks like criti too lol
 

lahadaextranjera

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Lol i just remembered once this guy at the bar, speaking like he owned growing marijuana and everyone had to pay him for a patent lease, Goin on about having 2 meter tall plants inside the house and shit like that, im like lets see some pics.

Man he had 4 250w lights hung from like the corners of the ceiling pointing towards the ''plants'' like a football stadium it was fucking EPIC. And hes like sheeeet i even measure the ph of the water with a highly advanced instrument. and the 2 meter tall literally twigs were on like 2 liter pots.

@lahadaextranjera lol i hadnt seen that! Honestly ive come across the crappiest weeds ivbe ever seen my whole life here in spain. Lol the other day saw some bud for 2 euro a gram fulllll of borothrytis and the guy saying nah thats the thc! Thats why its all white!

people here are sooooo full of themselves i bet they eat their own shit for dessert fairly often.
Where did that happen? I've seen some cheap nasty shit also. Can't believe they are still open! However there weren't many people buying. Not one thing looked good there.

But then on the other hand I've been invited out elsewhere and smoked the best extractions in town. (R-KIEM lot). And you know what I'm like dabbing? It couldn't end soon enough! Lol I was so high, swear I had a whitey etc. Donde estabas? Estuvimos en HQ hace 2 semanas y tienen gorila glue.. image.jpgimage.jpg
 

KLITE

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@lahadaextranjera Im not going hq anymore if i see this one guy there im cutting the tendons of all his limbs and possibly slashing his mouth from ear to ear. Id like to avoid problems.

Nice! Ive been working on a new room but then now can head down soon. Where did you have try them extracts? Its not from the oil hunters lot no?
 

lahadaextranjera

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@lahadaextranjera Im not going hq anymore if i see this one guy there im cutting the tendons of all his limbs and possibly slashing his mouth from ear to ear. Id like to avoid problems.

Nice! Ive been working on a new room but then now can head down soon. Where did you have try them extracts? Its not from the oil hunters lot no?
Quien te da problemas? Arreglamos este para ti mi hermano!

Nah, been with the R-KIEM guys at another club. Was even higher than when we were in Mon Verde that time. 11 fucking samples. Not like you can get up halfway and say 'right, I've had enough!' I think they were impressed by me knowing what number we were on all the way to the end! :)
 

Corso312

Well-Known Member
Fucking LEO likes the low-hanging fruit. Lazy assholes...

The grow house next door

Two teachers. Two hundred marijuana plants. Two years in court.
By Ben Joravsky @joravben and Mick Dumke @mickeyd1971

In the basement of a house on South Exchange, investigators found lights hung from motorized tracks, a timer-based watering system, and nearly 200 pot plants.

On December 5, 2009, Cook County sheriff's police sergeant Patrick Donovan spotted two men in a white, windowless cargo van on the loading dock of a shop called the Brew and Grow, tucked between Elston and the Kennedy expressway. Donovan watched from his car 40 yards away as the men—one of them medium height and stocky, the other tall and gangly—loaded large tables, fans, and four-foot filters into the van.

The Brew and Grow, which has since moved, sells tools and equipment for home beer making and hydroponic gardening, including the fertilizers and nutrients to grow everything from arugula to broccoli to marijuana. And Cook County sheriff's police routinely stake out the store and other retailers like it, surveying who buys what.

There's no evidence they're interested in the broccoli growers.

As the van pulled away, Donovan trailed it 17 miles to a one-story house with green aluminum siding on the 10000 block of South Exchange. South of the Skyway and walking distance from the Indiana state line, it's a quiet block of modest homes owned by city workers and Hammond casino employees.

From a safe distance, Donovan watched the van pull into a garage, and he was able to catch sight of the two men unloading the cargo. He then continued to follow the van as it left the house and drove another 11 miles to a condominium complex in Bridgeport.

Over the next few days, Donovan ran the van's license plate number and discovered it had been rented by 45-year-old Adrian Ortiz. He pulled a digital image of Ortiz from a driver's license database and recognized him as the stockier of the two men. Through a property search, Donovan discovered that Ortiz and a 47-year-old woman named Heidi Keller had purchased the house on Exchange six weeks earlier for $65,000.

At Donovan's behest, a Cook County grand jury subpoenaed records from ComEd to see how much power the property on South Exchange was consuming. As Donovan was well aware, the type of lighting rig necessary to grow broccoli—or pot—consumes an inordinate amount of energy. After comparing the bill to those of two other houses on the same block, Donovan found that electrical use in Ortiz's house had surged.

Donovan spent the next few weeks conducting surveillance on the house at different times of the day and night. Neighbors saw him and wondered why someone was sitting in a car on their street, but when they approached, Donovan drove off. He discovered that the basement windows of Ortiz's house had been covered with dark plastic—and through a gap he could see "an extremely bright light." He also repeatedly examined the garbage bins in the alley and found them empty—except once, when he discovered a single Jewel bag with a wet pot leaf inside.

With that leaf, authorities launched a case against Ortiz and Keller that would continue for more than two years.

Over the past year, the Reader has chronicled a number of problems with how marijuana laws are enforced in Chicago: they're applied differently among different racial groups, clog the courts, and consume millions of dollars and thousands of hours that could be used on other critical needs.

Acknowledging the costly inconsistencies, city officials recently joined dozens of suburbs and downstate towns in decriminalizing the possession of small amounts of pot. Meanwhile, federal law enforcement officials are focused on breaking up the often-violent criminal networks that supply area marijuana. At the top of the feds' list is the Mexico-based Sinaloa cartel, which—in a story that's commonly cited as evidence of the operation's reach—was found four years ago to be cultivating about 10,000 plants deep in a national forest in northern Wisconsin.

The thing is, the weed is going to come from somewhere—and nobody wants to get it from violent drug gangs. All of which raises an interesting question: What is a just way to deal with someone knowingly breaking the law by attempting to peaceably grow the marijuana that millions of ordinary and otherwise law-abiding people regularly consume?

In that context, it seems a bit surprising that the Cook County sheriff's department has in recent years poured resources into targeting a different kind of marijuana source than the gangs and cartels under investigation by the feds: grow houses.

Investigations of this kind are laborious, relying on stakeouts, surveillance, subpoenas, and search warrants, followed by dramatic arrests, colorful press releases, and photographs that make the news. The sheriff's police have even extended their investigations beyond the Cook County limits, to Romeoville, in Will County, and Chesterton, in northwest Indiana.



What a fuckin loser, He's sitting in his car for weeks on the Southeast side n crime all around him n staking out a grow house..

This guy Ortiz ain't bright though, how do ya not notice a car following you from the north side to s.e. side?

What a waste of resources, Cook county judges laugh @ weed cases, I used to grow to the original Brew n grow on Beasley court next to the Kennedy.. That newer one on kedzie off Addison gave me the creeps..there were cops everywhere n the only parking is right behind the place in their lot.
 

abe supercro

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Just like being sloppy drunk, I don't like how I feel when I'm too high. Feeling sick and dizzy is not fun. IDK what's wrong with me...
I can only get like that on medibles, but I'm not much of a dabber. Seems the volcano flower vape keeps me at a moderate steady level. I also abstain from alcohol completely, so I can relate and some.
 

Unclebaldrick

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What a fuckin loser, He's sitting in his car for weeks on the Southeast side n crime all around him n staking out a grow house..

This guy Ortiz ain't bright though, how do ya not notice a car following you from the north side to s.e. side?

What a waste of resources, Cook county judges laugh @ weed cases, I used to grow to the original Brew n grow on Beasley court next to the Kennedy.. That newer one on kedzie off Addison gave me the creeps..there were cops everywhere n the only parking is right behind the place in their lot.
Yeah, but Besley was a dead end that was way easier to surveille. At least the new place has a couple of ways in and out and a car wash next door that you can use for cover. You must have known the nice couple that used to run the joint on Besley. I have seen them both in the last year. And the cops that are at the new place are all buying hops and don't give a fuck anymore.

I get the feeling that investigations like this are not really getting the active support of the CPD though clearly they got the attention of the State's Attorney. Fucking grand jury. I would have loved to have been on that grand jury.

Funny, I thought the same thing about not noticing the tail. But it was in a box-van so it would have been easier. Now I am sure they just throw a GPS on your ass.
 
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Corso312

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The last time I was in the original BnG a dude was making a huge scene.. Must of got fired or quit right before I walked in.. He was literally screaming as he walked out the door about " letting the cops know what -insert two names- have been doing ...". I told dude at the counter I will never be coming back, he was so embarrassed he couldn't say shit.
 

ttystikk

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The last time I was in the original BnG a dude was making a huge scene.. Must of got fired or quit right before I walked in.. He was literally screaming as he walked out the door about " letting the cops know what -insert two names- have been doing ...". I told dude at the counter I will never be coming back, he was so embarrassed he couldn't say shit.
I'm so FUCKING GLAD I love in Colorado and don't have to be this paranoid anymore. When I was in an illegal state, I NEVER bought grow supplies at a 'hydro' store- in part cuz 25 years ago they didn't exist yet. I bought a light and ballast via the mail and had it delivered to a friend's house.

I've had the police in my house, looking at my grow. They were looking for evidence of criminal wrongdoing, like guns, pills, gang paraphernalia, kids running around in the grow or a retail sales operation in the 'burbs. That's their job and frankly I'm on board with it and told the lead detective so.

Since I'm a lab and none of the above- and had my paperwork in order- they left after seeing for themselves and haven't bothered me since.
 

tyler.durden

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What a fuckin loser, He's sitting in his car for weeks on the Southeast side n crime all around him n staking out a grow house..

This guy Ortiz ain't bright though, how do ya not notice a car following you from the north side to s.e. side?

What a waste of resources, Cook county judges laugh @ weed cases, I used to grow to the original Brew n grow on Beasley court next to the Kennedy.. That newer one on kedzie off Addison gave me the creeps..there were cops everywhere n the only parking is right behind the place in their lot.
Amen. That's what really gets me: this city's got PLENTY of violent crime all around, and you're staking out grow shops??? I'm glad to hear that these judges laugh at weed cases, I'm always playing out in my head what to expect if I'm caught. I like the newer one on Kedzie, I only buy nutes there along with a couple big bags of perlite and rockwool every month and a half or so. I make sure to do it on a day which I have a lot of other appointments, so I don't go directly home, I'm off to half a dozen stops in the suburbs and then stop to visit friends. Let them try to follow me on the highway, go to multiple stops and sit outside various places for half the day before heading home. Plus, my shits in black garbage bags, so it could easily be brew stuff. You'd have to have the biggest hard on for me to go through any of that shit, and I'm such small time...
 

Corso312

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I don't think anyone could follow me for more than a couple blocks without me knowing..this cop should be made an example of, 40% clearance rate on homicides and this goof is out doing this.. I'm writing a letter to the newspaper n point that out.
 
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