does anyone use molasses with recharge? (hydro)

Dr. Who

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This is what I've got in 53 days... I just flipped the lights. The plant started to blow up when I started feeding it recharge. The root ball became a tight solid ball within days. I top feed recharge daily, it drips down and grabs hold of the roots. It never really makes it into the res. Which is why I add it daily. This plant is loving life and I strongly believe it's due to recharge. Things changed drastically after I stared feeding it this stuff. This plant is 4 ft tall
Ah HAH! I see now! You have a media based "hydro" grow....like Coco? Hmm, even hydroton/stones would supply a place for myco's to colonize. Not so well for DWC as the main root "ball" is suspended in the "res"......I do find it kinda odd that the plant reacted so drastically as synthetics are directly absorbed by the plant for use - no "need" for myco's....
Still,,I have found that soil/synth runs do benefit from keeping the bio heard alive and well...At any rate. I would not add any more Molasses to further the success your getting from the Recharge......For the reasons I gave above - The rule of "More is NOT better!" comes into direct play here!

You have given me a new focus on this "RECHARGE" stuff......I must look into it some....

Doc
 
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kenobi

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Ah HAH! I see now! You have a media based "hydro" grow....like Coco? Hmm, even hydroton/stones would supply a place for myco's to colonize. Not so well for DWC as the main root "ball" is suspended in the "res"......I do find it kinda odd that the plant reacted so drastically as synthetics are directly absorbed by the plant for use - no "need" for myco's....
Still,,I have found that soil/synth runs do benefit from keeping the bio heard alive and well...At ant rate. I would not add any more Molasses to further the success your getting from the Recharge......For the reasons I gave above - The rule of "More is NOT better!" comes into direct play here!

You have given me a new focus on this "RECHARGE" stuff......I must look into it some....

Doc
thanks for the advise dude, thats really all i wanted to know. this is my first DWC run so im asking all the questions i would normally ask if i were to be running a soil run. now i know, no molasses in hydro but you said i could use a sweet raw correct? maybe ill make some for my next run. i know theyre COMPLETELY different methods but i didnt know where to start. online videos can only do some much, i need real info from people, not a 5 min how-to video. in regards to recharge, test it out. run two plants (obviously the same strain), feed one recharge from veg to flower and the other no recharge. you'll be impressed. considering its a soil fert. you should get even better results than i ( i assume). before feeding this stuff my plant was steadily growing 1.5 inches a day. after feeding it this stuff about 3 days later i noticed about 3-3.5 inches of growth a day and the root ball COMPLETELY changed, its was getting HUGE. many people have told me its because im running a hydro system, but i honestly think it was the recharge man. shit is amazing. oh and im using clay stones, no coco, super messy in hydro. it can be done but id stay away from coco in hydro
 

Dr. Who

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thanks for the advise dude, thats really all i wanted to know. this is my first DWC run so im asking all the questions i would normally ask if i were to be running a soil run. now i know, no molasses in hydro but you said i could use a sweet raw correct? maybe ill make some for my next run. i know theyre COMPLETELY different methods but i didnt know where to start. online videos can only do some much, i need real info from people, not a 5 min how-to video. in regards to recharge, test it out. run two plants (obviously the same strain), feed one recharge from veg to flower and the other no recharge. you'll be impressed. considering its a soil fert. you should get even better results than i ( i assume). before feeding this stuff my plant was steadily growing 1.5 inches a day. after feeding it this stuff about 3 days later i noticed about 3-3.5 inches of growth a day and the root ball COMPLETELY changed, its was getting HUGE. many people have told me its because im running a hydro system, but i honestly think it was the recharge man. shit is amazing. oh and im using clay stones, no coco, super messy in hydro. it can be done but id stay away from coco in hydro
Yeah, the "Sweet" formula I gave will make you very happy come the time when the plant is making trichomes and building terp's in the tric's. It helps with tric production and has the plant make more of each....It works!

Oh I believe in myco's....lol.....I build my own soils and use my own teas - very myco heavy. I really don't need to add more.....Just saying,,I like mine on the fungal side a bit....Glad you found something that works for you!

Coco, is a hydro based media.....In essence, when running in coco, you are doing a "style" of hydro.....It is considered a soil less grow...

Doc
 

kenobi

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Coco, is a hydro based media.....In essence, when running in coco, you are doing a "style" of hydro.....It is considered a soil less grow...

Doc
i just freak out when i see my water all nasty, i feel like coco would drip into my res, no?
 

Dr. Who

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There are ways around it - line the pot with a nylon is one.....BUT, I don't like Coco. I've done it.. It works well too (once you have it dialed in). The problem is too much work,,,,,,same for hydro of any style,,,,,but coco has another cpl of things you need to watch.....too much going on..

Water only "super soil"......Everyday = water and walk away.....Now that's simple and easy.....The work is building the soil and that only takes an hr or two.....then turn it over every now and then.....fill the pot, stick in the rooted plant from a Solo cup and boom - done!

Doc
 

kenobi

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There are ways around it - line the pot with a nylon is one.....BUT, I don't like Coco. I've done it.. It works well too (once you have it dialed in). The problem is too much work,,,,,,same for hydro of any style,,,,,but coco has another cpl of things you need to watch.....too much going on..

Water only "super soil"......Everyday = water and walk away.....Now that's simple and easy.....The work is building the soil and that only takes an hr or two.....then turn it over every now and then.....fill the pot, stick in the rooted plant from a Solo cup and boom - done!

Doc
i believe you gave me a mix to try, i dont remember if it was you or not (almost sure it was you). im trying it out next run. organics right????
 

Dr. Who

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The formula I gave you for home made sweet is organic yes.
And yes the home made soils I do are very organic.

Check out the ORGANICS section here.....There are some fine soils and instructions there....

Here is a simple organic soil link,,,basic, may need some tea nutrition later on, but very good way to see how this organic soil thing starts...

Easy Organic Soil Mix for Beginners - Organic Growing

enjoy

Doc
 
There are ways around it - line the pot with a nylon is one.....BUT, I don't like Coco. I've done it.. It works well too (once you have it dialed in). The problem is too much work,,,,,,same for hydro of any style,,,,,but coco has another cpl of things you need to watch.....too much going on.. Water only "super soil"......Everyday = water and walk away.....Now that's simple and easy.....The work is building the soil and that only takes an hr or two.....then turn it over every now and then.....fill the pot, stick in the rooted plant from a Solo cup and boom - done! Doc
 

Drdoombud

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Hey I'm using recharge once a week with 5gal fabric pots in ffof soil
Pretty much have the same question as the thread but for soil
Wondering about using one of these; bud candy , grandmas molassas, hombodlts honey es in conjunction with recharge
Doing base ,feed ,flush*non plant food ingredents*week schedule
Tps one base
Food purpinator + homboldts flower stacker *week 3-7*
Flush Recharge

Idk kinda seeing a problem idk if it's not enough calcium becuase to much magnesium
+over watering
2.5L for a week today dropped down to 2L
It's one the left week 4 day 30
Right is day 1
Temp lights on 76-78f
Lights off 66-67
Humidity 40-45
 

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