Mistaken russet mites for nutrient burn?? Help

Final Phase

Final Phase

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I have been through three spider mite invasions. The last one was a nightmare. I used a product called "No Spider Mite." It's very expensive! In the end I had to treat the plants three time instead of just two. They said it would wipe out the eggs on the second round, but it wouldn't kill all of them off and they would come back. The product is hard on the plants, but they do recover. The sooner you get them out of your grow the better for you and the plants! You can spray them off once a day (spray the underside of the leaves). Then I spray bleach around the plants on on my dirt floor to kill off the mites - just to keep them at bay until you get a product to kill them off. Get a product that recommends you spray at least once after initial spraying or you won't ever get rid of the eggs that mature 3 or 4 days later!

If you use lady bugs - Release them in the dark so they don't scatter to all points of the room. I had to cover the light ducting ports with wire mesh to keep them from killing themselves in the lights.

It will cost you some money to solve your problem - They look healthy enough to withstand the punishment of chemicals - Lady bugs don't hurt your plants a bit. I just didn't have good luck trying lady bugs on two attempts (they just didn't wipe em out completely.

Spider mites are a real pain in the ass.

Do you see any webbing or strands of web on the leaves? If not they ain't spider mites.
 
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Dadioski

Dadioski

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Hey Potgurl, don't have any for sure advice on this, I have not had any critters for years (knock on wood) but if I did I was always planning to do a mass ladybug attack. I'm sure others will have some helpful ideas. Woody just likes you and now has a reason to send flowers.
Good luck with your lady's.
 
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woody333333

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Potgurl said:
Ok so I may be a little crazy, maybe not russet mites. I'm guessing spider mites? But here are more photos of front and back of leaves with the magnifying glass. Believe me I'm not the type who just wants someone to agree with me. I was just asking for a little help on what to use.
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Suppose I'm wrong..... I still don't see those being the cause tho

If I were you I would trash that grow
 
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woody333333

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Dadioski said:
Hey Potgurl, don't have any for sure advice on this, I have not had any critters for years (knock on wood) but if I did I was always planning to do a mass ladybug attack. I'm sure others will have some helpful ideas. Woody just likes you and now has a reason to send flowers.
Good luck with your lady's.
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I don't like either of ya
 
Potgurl

Potgurl

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Final Phase said:
I have been through three spider mite invasions. The last one was a nightmare. I used a product called "No Spider Mite." It's very expensive! In the end I had to treat the plants three time instead of just two. They said it would wipe out the eggs on the second round, but it wouldn't kill all of them off and they would come back. The product is hard on the plants, but they do recover. The sooner you get them out of your grow the better for you and the plants! You can spray them off once a day (spray the underside of the leaves). Then I spray bleach around the plants on on my dirt floor to kill off the mites - just to keep them at bay until you get a product to kill them off. Get a product that recommends you spray at least once after initial spraying or you won't ever get rid of the eggs that mature 3 or 4 days later!

If you use lady bugs - Release them in the dark so they don't scatter to all points of the room. I had to cover the light ducting ports with wire mesh to keep them from killing themselves in the lights.

It will cost you some money to solve your problem - They look healthy enough to withstand the punishment of chemicals - Lady bugs don't hurt your plants a bit. I just didn't have good luck trying lady bugs on two attempts (they just didn't wipe em out completely.

Spider mites are a real pain in the ass.

Do you see any webbing or strands of web on the leaves? If not they ain't spider mites.
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I have this stuff called doctor zymes it was expensive also a little over 400 not sure if you have heard of it. Only plants I found webbing on was when I looked inside the Af-Crack plants and a little stringy Web on a berry white.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Potgurl said:
Ok so I may be a little crazy, maybe not russet mites. I'm guessing spider mites? But here are more photos of front and back of leaves with the magnifying glass. Believe me I'm not the type who just wants someone to agree with me. I was just asking for a little help on what to use.
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THIS is spider mites and the damage they cause.

The first set of pics you took at the beginning of the thread looked a lot like they *could be* russet mites, but were too blurry or shaky to see anything definitive.

Spider mites are a pest, but not fatal. Russet mites are worse because they usually go unnoticed for a lot longer.

My russet mite fix is not for bloom, the pesticides are persistent for up to seventy days.

FloramiteSC (or Avid if you must, but the persistence is even longer) at label strength, plus 60ml/gal of Azamax as a carrier. This mixed with warm water and sprayed immediately, shake the sprayer bottle often during application.

Do it twice about a week or ten days apart.

Do NOT use this mix in bloom or less than seventy days from chop. It can be used indoors, if you do, plan to leave for the day after spraying it. Use proper PPG; a good mask (not a paper face cover), gloves, long pants, long sleeves, wash your clothes and take a shower after application.
 
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woody333333

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Potgurl said:
Sorry woody I'm not trashing my babies without trying.. I put to much work and time into them and I still have some beautiful girls worth saving.
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I understand.... Just think you be better off w a fresh start... Don't know how you're gonna get rid of em and there's still plenty of time

Why do you have em tho?
 
Final Phase

Final Phase

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Keep an eye out next time for a place that guarantees no bugs for your next grow. I found a place in San Deigo that gave a guarantee. After I brought them home I kept them out of the garden for a week to study the plants for possible mites.

Three years ago I got clones from a dispensary that had mites on em...
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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Potgurl said:
Ok so I may be a little crazy, maybe not russet mites. I'm guessing spider mites? But here are more photos of front and back of leaves with the magnifying glass. Believe me I'm not the type who just wants someone to agree with me. I was just asking for a little help on what to use.
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you appear to have both russet and two spot.
The russets are causing the "clawing" and the growing tips t appear a dusty brownish color, the two spots are what is gathering under the leaves.
the russtes are realy hard to see.
You need to spray with a miticide. As much as I hate t advise that.
I grow in the santa cruz redwoods, we have all types of mites here, those are russets, no doubt, i'm willing to bet. Unfortunetly I have had a run in or two with those fuckers
You also have the normal 2-spotted too.
You are gonna have a uphill climb n front of you.
 
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Potgurl said:
We lost about 10 plants but most of the girls survived and are doing very well. Thanks to everyone for some good tips. The girls are into bud and looking real nice :) I attached some pics I took a week ago. The blue dream and bb haze have grown huge.
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good to know, and it's also good to see that you took care of it, even contrary to the advice given, had I've seen the thread earlier I would have chimed in.
Sadly mites and I go back decades... luckily the russets are somewhat new, and their reproductive cycle isn't quite as gnarly as the two-spots. those fuckers procreate like rats on Viagra...
The russets are slower though
 
Potgurl

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greasemonkeymann said:
good to know, and it's also good to see that you took care of it, even contrary to the advice given, had I've seen the thread earlier I would have chimed in.
Sadly mites and I go back decades... luckily the russets are somewhat new, and their reproductive cycle isn't quite as gnarly as the two-spots. those fuckers procreate like rats on Viagra...
The russets are slower though
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It was hell Im not going to lie and like I said we lost some plants. But there was no way I was losing all of them. They seem to be budding good so Im just happy we caught it before it spread to all them :)
 
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