Will Ferrell
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Just wondering if there's any good alternatives for ff big bloom. It seems to go pretty fast and is getting pricey.
Thanks and have a wonderful day.
Thanks and have a wonderful day.
What is a good alternative for fox farm big bloom?
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SPLFreak808
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Ffbb is a tea type organic fert like biobizz grow and earth juice catalyst. Biobizz and earth juice also make organic blooming ferts closer to ffbb's npk if that's what you are looking for
bearkat42
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I have no idea why more people don't do this.
Will Ferrell
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I'm trying to learn how to do that. I just stumbled in the organics section last night for the first time and have already found some great stuff, which had lead me to also want to try to recycle my soil. I just gotta figure that out too. I got lots and lots of soil I toss.
Will Ferrell
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Thanks broski I'll look into those and get whatever's cheapest.
Will Ferrell
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because we're noobs and it's easy to just buy a good quality pre mix at the grow shop.
bearkat42
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I buy my the mix for my soil off of eBay. Can't get much easier than that.
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harris hawk
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"Budwell" works very well an it's organic then the advanced line Big Bud, Bud-blood,ect - if want to go cheaper look at General Hydro's products
May11th
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Roots Buddha bloom if your lazy. just go buy a decent size aquarium pump and some nutes and bubble in panty hose and you'll save money, have fresh microbes and great smell teas yhat are way way way way way way better. Youll have top shelf organics with compost teas and nute tea boosters. Pm I can make it simple Hyroot is da man also
Dr. Who
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NO don't look at Gen Hydro!
They are owned by Scotts and they are the enemy!
This has some great info too.
http://forum.grasscity.com/organic-growing/1116550-easy-organic-soil-mix-beginners.html
But really you should read this!
http://www.amazon.com/Teaming-Microbes-Organic-Gardeners-Revised/dp/1604691131/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_y
AND then this!
http://www.amazon.com/Teaming-Nutrients-Gardeners-Optimizing-Nutrition/dp/1604693142/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_y
Midwest Weedist
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You could try your hand at fermenting banana peels for a "bloom" amendment. All you need is some rice and water to culture the lactobacillus, some banana peels, and a few weeks.
Richard Drysift
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It does not really replace what big bloom does but if you are looking for an organic bloom booster check out HPK by roots organics. It's a guano based high PK nutrient that contains microbial life. Of course building, recycling and/or amending your own mix is preferable but soup style organics can get your plants through to the finish line if you do not yet have the exp or resources.
MjMama
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Mix a little kelp meal and earth worm castings with water to make a mud and smear that around the top of your soil. It will offer the same micronutrients and even better microbes than anything fox farms puts in a bottle. My first year of organics I bought some Kelp and alfalfa for veg, then used kelp and guano for flower, along with earthworm castings and a little molasses. I have never bought a bottle of nutrients since.
This is also a great solution for calmag problems. Kelp is the most diverse plant food I can think of.
This is also a great solution for calmag problems. Kelp is the most diverse plant food I can think of.
Will Ferrell
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hey, first off i want to say THANK YOU! I wasnt expecting so many comments. Im loving the vibes here in the organics section.
Ive been swamped the past few days and havent had a chance to start my research on winging off bottled nutes. But when i have time, it looks like i already have all the info i need here. Thanks again!
Ive been swamped the past few days and havent had a chance to start my research on winging off bottled nutes. But when i have time, it looks like i already have all the info i need here. Thanks again!
OrganicSmokeOnly77
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Yea man, they're great here in this section. I'm new here too and am already loving the vibes!bGood luck bro! That ewc mud trick mjmama suggested seems to be a favorite around here. Imma give that a go, too. Peace!
greasemonkeymann
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you could do that, but like the old argument.. how much aerobic microbial life is gonna be alive in a sealed anaerobic bottle....
Besides, and 100% no disrespect intended, but it'd be cheaper, more effective, and a better product overall to simply make your own guano tea.
Personally i'd take an alfalfa tea, kelp and fish hydrosylate tea over anything bottled, but it's all a preference.
hell some like blood meal tea.... blech...
to be honest, I've kinda been steering away from nutrient teas, instead I really am having good results from amending my compost pile as opposed to my soil mix, am working on a new recipe that uses a bunch of slow release nutrients.
Seems like I am always tweeking my recipe... it's getting close to perfect though, for me anyways. just gotta wait another 10 months or so for my leaf mold to break down.
Richard Drysift
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Totally true and I agree but the OP was looking for over the counter bottled organic products similar to big bloom and there are options available. I mean yeah It's easy to bubble up your own tea and surely a whole lot cheaper in the long run too but if you don't yet have all you need -ie airstones, EWC, and amendments like alfalfa or kelp meal- you can get by with bottled organics like BB and HPK to get your plants through to harvest without resorting to synthetics.
HealingVibrations89
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I think what you are looking for is a PK booster with a balanced level of carbohydrates. I would recommend using seabird guano for your phos. soluble kelp extract for the potassium. decrease the seabird and increase your kelp towards the end. keeping in mind that you can nutrient lock the plant with too much potassium, and burn the plant with too much phos. you can buy fermented papaya and banana molasses. This is a very balance form of carbs for the plant. Towards the end of the cycle I flush with some potassium, the fermented sugars and lots of water (this will give your plant a more pleasurable flavor.) some people i know add things like grape concentrate and apple concentrate as well.