California Mite explosion

mikeykrinshaw12

Well-Known Member
Hello all outdoor growers!
I have been researching the onset of what is becoming a Mite epidemic in Central and Northern California. This is not something new! This has been coming on over the last 5 years and will get worse before it gets better- especially in the central California valley and surrounding foothills.
There are several contributing factors- Agriculture, drought, acclimatization, and colonization.
Broad mites and russet mites in particular are spreading rapidly due to warmer weather during the winter, lack of snow fall, and lack of hard frosts lasting for a duration of more than 1 month (exceeding incubation period for eggs).
They hit the agricultural crops hard 3 years ago, it made the news and headlines of local farmers. They switched their pesticide regime- forcing the mite populations to move on (cinnamon oil concentrate) to more habitable crops. The size of cannabis crops increasing, and the amount of residual soils left after the harvest season has provided places for the mites to collonize and wait over the wintertime to spread slowly out during the spring months and colonize elsewhere (like freshly planted crops and their cuttings/offspring).
These colonies started in much lesser numbers, and are rapidly spreading and increasing in population densities where not treated.
Colonies are now reaching elevations upwards of 3200 feet, as monitored by resource management specialists in the US forest service and other ecological monitoring agencies. Please Take precautions when getting your gardens going this year. Many growers already have them and just are not aware of it until too late. take the precautions now. Mite activity slows during the hot summer outside, they are most active from now until mid June outdoors.

Recommended preparations and ongoing treatment.

1. diatomaceous earth- Use the food grade kind. Mix it into your soil, and top dress your pots/boxes etc with a thin layer of it. Spread/dust the diatomaceous earth EVERYWHERE around your grow site- a fine coat on all surfaces for a few weeks at the very least on all exposed surfaces. Do this NOW- reapply after wet weather- it works. If you have plants that are infected, you can dust the plants with a nice layer and it will work also.

2. Spray- Your choice of spray- this is for prevention. I recommend a cinamite like product that uses primarily cinnamon oil as its active ingredient. Spray this Everywhere, not just on your plants- outside on your fences and wood structures that mites can colonize and wait in- surrounding soil- surrounding plants. I would also recommend planting cinamon and White Sage around the proximity of your garden area to help deter them along the perimeter. I recommend switching to a regular Neem oil for regular weekly spraying of plants during grow season until onset of flower.

3. Spray- Pyrethrin- As the veg season comes to a close I would recommend applying a pyrethrin spray (natural organic compounds normally derived from Chrysanthemum cinerariifolium) for the first 3-5 weeks of flower. In California the same optimal conditions that begin for these Mites in the late winter going into spring months, is also present in the months of Late Aug/Early September until beginning to mid October, (depending on location, altitude, etc.) I would also reapply a nice layer of DE at this time. I don't recommend using DE on plants in flower.


Please take these precautions! Even if you dont have them, save yourself the trouble! Mite colonies are now infesting soil batches ALL over California- you can steam clean, then mix in DE. It is not just Fox Farms, batches from several other companies are turning them out as well.

This is becoming a serious issue. It's getting worse, and we are providing the way for it to happen, protect yourself and protect your neighbors. The methods and schedule above is based on the same cycles that agricultural farmers are using on organic crops- the ones driving the colonies out and away to our crops.

A very well respected horticulturalist/naturalist/botanist I know commented that fire is also one of the Best deterants and erradication methods for severe outdoor infestations- Flames/heat kill, ash suffocates and causes imobility (similar to DE) and coal is not habitable for them. Reforestation projects in the lower foot hills of california included control burning to mitigate the effects of these mites and other non indigenous pests causing harm to local ecologies, the drought and warm weather got them canceled. He commented that in the past, fire would rage through the valley during the hot season of drought periods like this and control their populations and spread.

Please also Note- I have seen these pests go unnoticed on a regular basis in MOST gardens, if you do not have experience in finding and treating them- Definitely take these precautions seriously. These tips and advice also apply to indoor growing, but unfortunately indoor grows require quite a bit more work to be effective. Thanks for reading- Best of seasons to you all and- Happy Growing :)
 

a mongo frog

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Could be wrong, but i think this broad mite issue has been spreading through california for 2 years now or more. Not even sure if one can beat them totally. I know everyone says spray this and spray that, and i think most are doing that. I believe there still showing signs on peoples mother plants and are really showing up on some of these og cuts going around.
 

nuggs

Well-Known Member
Hello all outdoor growers!
I have been researching the onset of what is becoming a Mite epidemic in Central and Northern California. This is not something new! This has been coming on over the last 5 years and will get worse before it gets better- especially in the central California valley and surrounding foothills.
There are several contributing factors- Agriculture, drought, acclimatization, and colonization.
Broad mites and russet mites in particular are spreading rapidly due to warmer weather during the winter, lack of snow fall, and lack of hard frosts lasting for a duration of more than 1 month (exceeding incubation period for eggs).
They hit the agricultural crops hard 3 years ago, it made the news and headlines of local farmers. They switched their pesticide regime- forcing the mite populations to move on (cinnamon oil concentrate) to more habitable crops. The size of cannabis crops increasing, and the amount of residual soils left after the harvest season has provided places for the mites to collonize and wait over the wintertime to spread slowly out during the spring months and colonize elsewhere (like freshly planted crops and their cuttings/offspring).
These colonies started in much lesser numbers, and are rapidly spreading and increasing in population densities where not treated.
Colonies are now reaching elevations upwards of 3200 feet, as monitored by resource management specialists in the US forest service and other ecological monitoring agencies. Please Take precautions when getting your gardens going this year. Many growers already have them and just are not aware of it until too late. take the precautions now. Mite activity slows during the hot summer outside, they are most active from now until mid June outdoors.

Recommended preparations and ongoing treatment.

1. diatomaceous earth- Use the food grade kind. Mix it into your soil, and top dress your pots/boxes etc with a thin layer of it. Spread/dust the diatomaceous earth EVERYWHERE around your grow site- a fine coat on all surfaces for a few weeks at the very least on all exposed surfaces. Do this NOW- reapply after wet weather- it works. If you have plants that are infected, you can dust the plants with a nice layer and it will work also.

2. Spray- Your choice of spray- this is for prevention. I recommend a cinamite like product that uses primarily cinnamon oil as its active ingredient. Spray this Everywhere, not just on your plants- outside on your fences and wood structures that mites can colonize and wait in- surrounding soil- surrounding plants. I would also recommend planting cinamon and White Sage around the proximity of your garden area to help deter them along the perimeter. I recommend switching to a regular Neem oil for regular weekly spraying of plants during grow season until onset of flower.

3. Spray- Pyrethrin- As the veg season comes to a close I would recommend applying a pyrethrin spray (natural organic compounds normally derived from Chrysanthemum cinerariifolium) for the first 3-5 weeks of flower. In California the same optimal conditions that begin for these Mites in the late winter going into spring months, is also present in the months of Late Aug/Early September until beginning to mid October, (depending on location, altitude, etc.) I would also reapply a nice layer of DE at this time. I don't recommend using DE on plants in flower.


Please take these precautions! Even if you dont have them, save yourself the trouble! Mite colonies are now infesting soil batches ALL over California- you can steam clean, then mix in DE. It is not just Fox Farms, batches from several other companies are turning them out as well.

This is becoming a serious issue. It's getting worse, and we are providing the way for it to happen, protect yourself and protect your neighbors. The methods and schedule above is based on the same cycles that agricultural farmers are using on organic crops- the ones driving the colonies out and away to our crops.

A very well respected horticulturalist/naturalist/botanist I know commented that fire is also one of the Best deterants and erradication methods for severe outdoor infestations- Flames/heat kill, ash suffocates and causes imobility (similar to DE) and coal is not habitable for them. Reforestation projects in the lower foot hills of california included control burning to mitigate the effects of these mites and other non indigenous pests causing harm to local ecologies, the drought and warm weather got them canceled. He commented that in the past, fire would rage through the valley during the hot season of drought periods like this and control their populations and spread.

Please also Note- I have seen these pests go unnoticed on a regular basis in MOST gardens, if you do not have experience in finding and treating them- Definitely take these precautions seriously. These tips and advice also apply to indoor growing, but unfortunately indoor grows require quite a bit more work to be effective. Thanks for reading- Best of seasons to you all and- Happy Growing :)
Yeah what he said ^ !
 

CC Dobbs

Well-Known Member
The prevalence of mites hasn't increased you're just noticing them more. Two spotted and broad mites have been around for years and they are not going away nor will they be controlled using the methods you've described. Russet mites are fairly new to California but they aren't going away either. Each of these mites, and other less well known ones, have vulnerabilities that can be exploited if you learn about them.

Preventative sprays are not a good solution due to most mites ability ti adapt. In fact preventatives make the problem worse and are a good way to assist the mites in adapting.
 

mr sunshine

Well-Known Member
Indoor is easier to treat.. submerge the whole plant in 100 degree water for 15 minutes maybe throw some azamax in there. . It's hard to get rid of them with sprays because they burrow into the stalk...
 

nuggs

Well-Known Member
seems dry climates always spray chemicals on there meds. rain does help. i used californicus cucumeris and persimilis last yr also seaweed
so you used the seaweed to wash off the shit piles that the beneficial bugs have left on your buds. What will you do to the environment that you have introducted these new mites into? after they eat what is provided (mites) they have to feed on something or go somewhere to feed.
 

mikeykrinshaw12

Well-Known Member
so you used the seaweed to wash off the shit piles that the beneficial bugs have left on your buds. What will you do to the environment that you have introducted these new mites into? after they eat what is provided (mites) they have to feed on something or go somewhere to feed.

this question is answered in the links I provided in your thread.
 

mikeykrinshaw12

Well-Known Member
The prevalence of mites hasn't increased you're just noticing them more. Two spotted and broad mites have been around for years and they are not going away nor will they be controlled using the methods you've described. Russet mites are fairly new to California but they aren't going away either. Each of these mites, and other less well known ones, have vulnerabilities that can be exploited if you learn about them.

Preventative sprays are not a good solution due to most mites ability ti adapt. In fact preventatives make the problem worse and are a good way to assist the mites in adapting.

Bullshit. Russet mites have been a problem much longer- take a bio-sci history class------- Russets came with the potatoes- The IRISH SLAVES- jack ass. IRISH SLAVES, ASIAN SLAVES, BLACK SLAVES.... or would you rather I say indentured servitude? How about Sumarians? Cut the fat they were slaves. Yeah I read your posts and you NEED an education. Russets traveled through the hemp trade and adapted into several different varieties- READ the damn citation links in your own supporting claim in the other thread! Russets entered US in early 1600's, and migrated to west coast faster than white people did.

Broads didn't show until mid 1800's and didn't prevail on west coast until Agricultural revolution in the 1860's-1890's. Two spotteds were already here for thousands of years, indigenous species like poison oak actually naturally repel the two spotted and spider mites.....

Go read a fucking book man I am sick of reading your BS- And I pitty anyone that follows your "lead"
And take a shower and stay away from the club- problem solved right?
 

Grandpapy

Well-Known Member
For what's it worth,
I've have them in check using Spinosad, Azamax no life left, just eggs So tried the GreenCleaner the last two days, It didn't kill the eggs.
Back to Azamax.
Update: with much embarrassment..... I had made a mistake mixing (directions and good weed) the
GreenCleaner. I had it way too weak.:wall:

It looks as if it can dry up the eggs, but might be just a little hard on the plant. At any rate I need more mites to do a good test.
dry eggs.jpg dry egg 2.jpg
 
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fandango

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I went surfing on youtube and found Great Gardener...canada big grower...he was spraying the veg room with...Bugs be gone.
 
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