How cops are catching grow ops with AM radios

rob333

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I DO NOT OWN OR DID I RIGHT THE CONTENTS THOUGHT I WOULD BE A GOOD READ FOR RIU MEMBERS
With the proliferation of indoor marijuana grows, the indoor “horticulture” industry has been booming. Chinese manufacturers are turning out indoor grow equipment at a rapid pace with little to no regulatory oversight or compliance. Because of this, there has been a significant amount of radio frequency interference (RFI).

Before we get into how to detect a marijuana grow with your car radio, you have to understand some simple mechanics of how a grow operates. To grow marijuana indoors, you need supplemental lighting necessary for photosynthesis. These lights may be fluorescent, LED, and for larger operations, high pressure sodium (HPS) or metal halide (MH).

The HPS and MH lamps may be 1000W per lamp and require a ballast for proper operation. These ballasts were originally magnetic but in the past few years have become electronic. These devices are subject to FCC part 18 rules but there appears to be a total disregard for the FCC rules. Many (if not most) electronic ballasts are manufactured in China and may have little ‘FCC’ stickers on them but there is no evidence of any testing for compliance having been done. Because of this, a large amount of RFI is interfering with nearby electronics. As an example, one grow next to a CalFire station — California’s state fire agency — caused a continuous hum over the station’s callbox speaker and interfered with them receiving radio broadcasts over their station’s PA.

Ham Radio Helpers
Reports have begun to flood into the National Association for Amateur Radio about interference with their ham radios from their neighbor’s marijuana grows. The most complaints come from California and Colorado, for obvious reasons. Many ham radio operators began to see a correlation with marijuana grows and this RFI.

One amateur radio operator located five marijuana grows near his house due to RFI alone! Many ham operators can locate a grow simply by taking a radio and portable antennae out into their neighborhood and using the radio to triangulate the exact location of the grow.

One industrious ham operator went to his local grow shop and borrowed several lights and ballasts to test for RFI. He found that one light and ballast set up would cause interference up to 700 meters. From our experience, we know that most indoor grows have more than one light and ballast, which would amplify the RFI.

Pioneering Field Use
One narcotics officer from the San Francisco Bay Area turns his car radio to 560 AM when he checks out potential indoor grows. He’s checked out seven indoor marijuana grows since learning about the RFI issue. All seven times, the car’s radio showed significant interference from the ballasts inside of the grow location.

One ham radio operator described the interference this way: “It can be pops, it can be a buzzing sound, whistles — just all kinds of different noises that we'll hear.”

Tom Thompson, a ham radio operator, told a Colorado newspaper, “If I can track this down, anybody can track this down. If I listen long enough, I can tell when they turn the lights off... You can tell exactly when the harvest is.”

This method of finding marijuana grows isn’t fool proof, but it can be another useful tool in your toolbox.
 

Cobnobuler

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We've kicked this can around before. From what I remember it involved mostly 1000 watt ballasts and there were certain brands including Lumatek causing the RFI.
 

dandyrandy

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I am a ham. Have been for 45 years. I see tons of rfi from my lights, drivers etc. I actually have a home brew rfi sniffer I made. Very directional antenna. I am unable to use my rig on anything below 20 meters.
 

whitebb2727

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Where is Bill Nye the science guy to verify all this junk science ?

Its not junk. Any thing electrical creates an magnetic field.

Part 15 of the FCC regs state an appliance shall not cause harmful interference. It also says that the device must accept interference including that which may cause undesired operation.

I would say that quite a few cheaper products are not good at not causing interference.

A farady cage works at stopping rfi.

A farady cage will protect electronics from an emp.
 

oldtimer54

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I'm famUOTE="whitebb2727, post: 11310719, member: 749089"]Its not junk. Any thing electrical creates an magnetic field.

Part 15 of the FCC regs state an appliance shall not cause harmful interference. It also says that the device must accept interference including that which may cause undesired operation.

I would say that quite a few cheaper products are not good at not causing interference.

A farady cage works at stopping rfi.

A farady cage will protect electronics from an emp.[/QUOTE]
I'm familiar with a Faraday cage..........I was being sarcastic. I believe what you say to be the truth. Now let me go back into my Faraday cage so I can remove this pesky Tin foil hat...Later
 

rob333

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I am a ham. Have been for 45 years. I see tons of rfi from my lights, drivers etc. I actually have a home brew rfi sniffer I made. Very directional antenna. I am unable to use my rig on anything below 20 meters.
so ur a ham hey ?? how long did it take to salt u ;) i just thought i would be a good read i really couldent see the 50 getting around with hand held am radio's cause i would be all like wtf is that dude doing in his car with that radio
 

whitebb2727

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I'm famUOTE="whitebb2727, post: 11310719, member: 749089"]Its not junk. Any thing electrical creates an magnetic field.

Part 15 of the FCC regs state an appliance shall not cause harmful interference. It also says that the device must accept interference including that which may cause undesired operation.

I would say that quite a few cheaper products are not good at not causing interference.

A farady cage works at stopping rfi.

A farady cage will protect electronics from an emp.
I'm familiar with a Faraday cage..........I was being sarcastic. I believe what you say to be the truth. Now let me go back into my Faraday cage so I can remove this pesky Tin foil hat...Later[/QUOTE]


My bad. Sometimes its hard to judge tone on the web.
 

LetsGetCritical

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It seems I heard that some grow tents have liners to limit RFI from getting out. Or am I just tripping?
well perhaps the mylar itself would essentially act as a fore mentioned faraday cage however I don't keep my ballast inside the tent because they do generate heat and there is no room left in the tent at any rate
 

Dankfactory

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Anything can cause rfi. I don't see how a warrant can be got on that alone.
A warrant cannot be obtained on RFI alone. The exact same equipment is used in Aquaria and even Terrariums, not to mention there are plenty of people who use Hydro equipment to grow vegetables. This thread is utterly worthless.
 
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