paclobuytrozol or daminozide?

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CC Dobbs

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mainliner said:
iv just been given a great tip from an old vetran grower for me to greatly improve my grow( even if i am a noob),,, and are wondering how and exactly when to use paclobuytrozol or daminozide ? Thanks your info will be greatly noted.i think its got something to do with cystal formation? And is add at late stage , not quite sure?
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CoughyTime

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Pretty entertaining responses to what looks like a troll. I've never heard a boxing coach suggest "Lead with your chin.", but seriously leading with emotions and speculation rather than facts in your fights makes for a quick finish. With the lack of consensus, least from the most emotional It's poison camp, I'll keep my options open. Thank you.
 
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Uncle Ben said:
Nothing like a good ol green wacko to liven things up.

Look, nobody is forcing your narrow minded, ignorant young minds to use anything.

Old dog benefitting from new tricks,
Uncle Ben

end of thread........
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You are clearly an ignorant and misguided dick with a response like that.
 
Uncle Ben

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If the need arises, I use paclo, Bonzi, during veg. Come flowering it's a moot point, the plant has done gone out of control.
 
jacksthc

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Uncle Ben said:
"fluvic"?

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sorry off the subject but I like this UB
and a good time to make a point, I don't follow a book or a grower, I make it up as I go
so there always going to be a chance I get it wrong from time to time
and feel you should have an open mind on lots of different threads on the site as you don't seem a fool to me
 
941mick

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Paclo is not being used by the larger public to keep their sativas from stretching. It is largely being used in mid flower by individuals looking to boost yield from their low yielding genetics. If something is up for debate whether it is harmful or not, personally I usually go with the better safe than sorry option.
 
shaggyballs

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Uncle Ben said:
If the need arises, I use paclo, Bonzi, during veg. Come flowering it's a moot point, the plant has done gone out of control.
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So no paclo or other during stretch????
I thought that was when it worked best.
Or do you use it just before stretch, if it is slow reacting that would make sense.

Anyway have you ever submitted a sample for testing?
I have heard a lot of crap on the subject.
If you are offering first hand info....I am listening!

I don't know why you would mislead us.
I find your information useful....but I make my own decisions.
And I suggest everyone else do the same.
But listen up....you may learn something.

Peace
shag
 
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Uncle Ben

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shaggyballs said:
So no paclo or other during stretch????
I thought that was when it worked best.
Or do you use it just before stretch, if it is slow reacting that would make sense.

Anyway have you ever submitted a sample for testing?
I have heard a lot of crap on the subject.
If you are offering first hand info....I am listening!

I don't know why you would mislead us.
I find your information useful....but I make my own decisions.
And I suggest everyone else do the same.
But listen up....you may learn something.

Peace
shag
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1. Shag, I don't care what you or any one does. I report, you decide. You're a big boy and must make your own choices. I'm not your nanny, more like a hard knocks teacher that raps your knuckles when you come up with crap like "I read that clipping the ends of leaves increases potency". Many do make choices based on the "he said she said" crap they read in cannabis forums and it gets them into trouble. "They're looking for love in all the wrong places".

2. I use Bonzi and never any cannabis specific products nor have I ever stepped foot into a hydro grow shop and am not about to start now.

3. I am a professional so that when I make a call it usually works as intended. That is based on a shitload of education and 40+ years of gardening experience.....I'm an old pHart. :)

4. That means that if if I'm growing a pure sativa or pure sativa hybrid and desire to control height, I start applications when the plant is quite young. The internode shortening influence is quite rapid and pronounced with Bonzi and lasts for a while. If things start getting out of control regarding stretching, then I act accordingly.
 
941mick

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At least we know why that bud in the picture is so big...I kid I kid

You obviously know what you are doing UB
 
shaggyballs

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Uncle Ben said:
1. Shag, I don't care what you or any one does. I report, you decide. You're a big boy and must make your own choices. I'm not your nanny, more like a hard knocks teacher that raps your knuckles when you come up with crap like "I read that clipping the ends of leaves increases potency". Many do make choices based on the "he said she said" crap they read in cannabis forums and it gets them into trouble. "They're looking for love in all the wrong places".

2. I use Bonzi and never any cannabis specific products nor have I ever stepped foot into a hydro grow shop and am not about to start now.

3. I am a professional so that when I make a call it usually works as intended. That is based on a shitload of education and 40+ years of gardening experience.....I'm an old pHart. :)

4. That means that if if I'm growing a pure sativa or pure sativa hybrid and desire to control height, I start applications when the plant is quite young. The internode shortening influence is quite rapid and pronounced with Bonzi and lasts for a while. If things start getting out of control regarding stretching, then I act accordingly.
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I currently use cytokinins now, much the same way.
I never thought of using paclo in veg..Hmm
I would imagine paclo would have a longer lasting effect.
I would still be curious if it would show up when tested?

Thanks again for your time
shag
 
Uncle Ben

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I liken the paclo FUD here to the FUD and emotionally driven, feel good, GMO hype coming from dull progressive, alternative types.

I don't know if it would show or not in body tissues when used at a 3% rate nor do I think there would be any link to personal health, just like the GMO foodie thing which has been proven with hundreds of studies as not having any harmful effects to one's health.

But, many folks are convinced and no amount of wisdom or facts will convince them otherwise.
 
shaggyballs

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I was thinkin' about testin the weed after harvest and cure.

I was curious because it is an interesting product that is also used on some food products.

I would be interested in submitting a sample of some bud it was used on,, do they test for that yet?
Thanks Ben!

shag
 
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j.ride

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The paclo definitely has an effect. I used 1ml on a couple of plants after the switch and a lot of stretching had already occurred. It stopped things from stretching any further but the biggest surprise was how further along the plants treated with paclo seem to be than plants that were not. Paclo on the left.

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It's far too early to tell how this will effect the final product or even yield, but things look promising.

1 ml of .4% paclo applied almost 2 months before harvest probably leaves less in the final bud than carcinogens leached from normal tap water. Everyone needs to decide for themselves if it's something you want to be using, but I find it a little humorous that people will go out and buy entire lines of nutrients containing who knows what, feed all that crap to their plants, and then raise red flags when people use something like this or don't flush. How many times have AN, dutch master, and the like pulled products because whatever is in them is no longer legal? A little common sense goes a long way when it comes to growing.
 
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