Anyone grown Neville's Haze?

[randybishop]

How hard is it to grow?
1st grow is Dinafem Cheese which is in flower now, it's been pretty easy.
I've read that Neville's Haze is for a more advanced grower, so I'm
a little nervous.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

Hazes are finicky and sensitive to overfertilization and over watering. If you're growing with synthetics it will be annoying to get it right. Organically (think s uper soil) it will be a lot easier.

 

[THESkunkMunkie]

The trick to growing any "haze" is to stretch out your regular feeding schedule during bloom and allow for the extra time it usually takes for them to flower. Keep them in smaller pots and top/train to keep down stretch. Feed them light and give plenty of light/lumen so they have enough coverage to bloom.
Patience of the grower is what is needed with haze strains as they can take anywhere between 11-16+ weeks to flower, but when flowered from clone they will be ready to harvest much sooner. 'Nevil Haze' is generally 12+ weeks and isn't for the faint of heart.

I have a clone of 'Mango Haze' that's potent, heady/euphoric and carries an amazing aroma & taste of fresh oranges - haze/spice. Intense flavor and a rip roaring effect. Highly recommend every grower trys a good haze at least once!!

This cut I have is easy in the top #3 tokes ever, for me it's a satty lover dream smoke. Harvested here @ 95 days...

 

[randybishop]

The trick to growing any "haze" is to stretch out your regular feeding schedule during bloom and allow for the extra time it usually takes for them to flower. Keep them in smaller pots and top/train to keep down stretch. Feed them light and give plenty of light/lumen so they have enough coverage to bloom.
Patience of the grower is what is needed with haze strains as they can take anywhere between 11-16+ weeks to flower, but when flowered from clone they will be ready to harvest much sooner. 'Nevil Haze' is generally 12+ weeks and isn't for the faint of heart.

I have a clone of 'Mango Haze' that's potent, heady/euphoric and carries an amazing aroma & taste of fresh oranges - haze/spice. Intense flavor and a rip roaring effect. Highly recommend every grower trys a good haze at least once!!

This cut I have is easy in the top #3 tokes ever, for me it's a satty lover dream smoke. Harvested here @ 95 days...

Looks AMAZING!!!
Thanks for the info.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

Why do you suggest smaller pots Skunk?

If anything I'd recommend larger pots to give it room to breath given how long it goes for and the generally extensive veg you go through whether you want to or not.

 

[greenghost420]

smaller pots should help taming the size? i think they should have bigger pots too but i havent given a pure haze a grow yet...

 

[THESkunkMunkie]

A smaller pot puts limits to roots space to stretch. And it helps to keep them from overgrowing indoor space and stay manageable, along with "supercrop" or "LST" training methods. Planted in larger pots their root mass is gonna explode with growth and so is the rate of above pot/medium growth too. You just have to feed them more often is all and if they do begin to show any sign of root-binding in veg, you can always prune back the root ball and replant in fresh medium to keep root growth fresh. But I've rarely seen rootbound plants in flower here. If I could grow outdoor I would of course let them breathe in bigger pots, but I have learned through research and personal experience that this method works.

Sativa/haze are hardy varieties but need some extra care & attention indoors and add to a growers workload. This is why most breeders say "recommended for advanced", as you can't really just plant and leave for days to expect a good turn out.

 

[greenghost420]

I figured it was to help tame the mammoth bitches!

 

[OGEvilgenius]

I think my bulb orientation has skewed how my thinking is vs the rest of the folks who use reflectors.

Bigger the better IMO if you got the room. I hang my bulbs vertically so they can grow around the plant. I did NLxHaze (which looked a lot like his pics TBH) this way. They were over 6ft tall but yielded well with my 600's.

 

[randybishop]

A smaller pot puts limits to roots space to stretch. And it helps to keep them from overgrowing indoor space and stay manageable, along with "supercrop" or "LST" training methods. Planted in larger pots their root mass is gonna explode with growth and so is the rate of above pot/medium growth too. You just have to feed them more often is all and if they do begin to show any sign of root-binding in veg, you can always prune back the root ball and replant in fresh medium to keep root growth fresh. But I've rarely seen rootbound plants in flower here. If I could grow outdoor I would of course let them breathe in bigger pots, but I have learned through research and personal experience that this method works.

Sativa/haze are hardy varieties but need some extra care & attention indoors and add to a growers workload. This is why most breeders say "recommended for advanced", as you can't really just plant and leave for days to expect a good turn out.

Awesome info THESkunkMunkie! Thank you!!!!!!!
I have a DWC setup with a 3.5 gallon bucket, do you think that is a good size?

 

[homebrewer]

Instead of limiting growth with smaller pots, I'd recommend you put them into flower earlier than normal (after you get clones of course) and don't be afraid to top, bend and train her in order to keep her manageable. Near pure sativas are vigorous as fudge. I'll top my kali mist 3-4 weeks into flower just to keep her from busting through the ceiling.

On another note, I wouldn't recommend a long flowering sativa to a novice grower. If things go south early, you'll be stuck with garbage at harvest, possibly forever tainting your impression of sativas.

 

[greenghost420]

great advice id recommend!^^

 

[OGEvilgenius]

The height problems go away if you hang your bulbs vertically. You also improve your yields. Another reason not to have smaller pots is to avoid rootbound problems (which can include hermaphrodism which can really suck).

 

[THESkunkMunkie]

A smaller pot puts limits to roots space to stretch. And it helps to keep them from overgrowing indoor space and stay manageable, along with "supercrop" or "LST" training methods. Planted in larger pots their root mass is gonna explode with growth and so is the rate of above pot/medium growth too. You just have to feed them more often is all and if they do begin to show any sign of root-binding in veg, you can always prune back the root ball and replant in fresh medium to keep root growth fresh. But I've rarely seen rootbound plants in flower here. If I could grow outdoor I would of course let them breathe in bigger pots, but I have learned through research and personal experience that this method works.

Re-read my post, rootbound plants occur from lazy growers not re-potting in veg. Plants in flower wont grow in root mass after around 4 weeks in 12/12 as all energy is put into flower/bud production, instead the plants root mass is built in veg/early bloom while growing. The initial flower cycle satty/haze strains will continue to veg/stretch upwards well into 4-5 weeks and same for root mass. Even flowered early from clone or seed they're gonna still grow the same way.

Topping & training is a must stalking & staking to tie up branches too and OGE-V touched on hanging bulbs into the canopy this is a good tip. But I work with what I have as I run a multi strain room and I am always flowering many different strains/cuts in different stages of bloom at any one time in my indoor flower room here. My canopy is never level lol.

This is just how I like to work though, I am not saying it's how everybody should run a sativa grow. We all have our own method of doing things, and this way works best for me with the space & environment I have.

Small pots need watering more but to keep the plants healthy you do need to put the work in. Check roots regular in veg and you can stop any problems occurring.

 

[coolkid.02]

I have 2 nevilles haze (mr.nice) in flower right now at 5 weeks. These have a bigger stretch then any of my other hazes (purple Colombian haze, CBH x a5haze, Bangi haze, and WiLd Haze. I would say nevilles Haze had a x5-6 stretch.

I always begin long flowering sativas (12-16wks) in smaller containers and only up-pot when needed, sometimes never... However I am extremely dilligent in my garden, so this may not work for the hands-off grower.

 

[coolkid.02]

neville's haze @5wks and just starting to get rolling...

 

[THESkunkMunkie]

@coolkid.02 that looks amazing bro. You know I've been growing over 10+ years now and although I am a sativa lover, I still have never taken up the challenge of the Nev Haze. The Mango Haze cut I have is one of my fav's though, and I recently picked up some of Shanti's "Rock n Roll" Hazes he made using the 'Haze AC' - Pink Floyd & The Doors, along with G13/Haze (although I believe this to actually be 'G13/Skunk x Haze')


To the thread starter (OP)- if your about to take on only your second grow ever then you may want to try a sativa hybrid or two first. Before you take on a Haze dom variety. Because as stated earlier in this thread, you may encounter issues with the grow and be left with a load of fluffy buds and waste your time. Get to know the strains more and as you build on your exp take on more & more lessons that our wonderful Mari plant can teach to us .

 

[yesum]

I grew ACE Panama Red in organic sold that was preamended. Was easy but put too much guano in the mix and it burned a little. Nice sativa and only doubled in height during flower. 12 to 14 weeks flower.

I have heard a lot of Piff or Frankie's Haze, Church etc. Do any of the Neville or Mango hazes have a similar buzz? The frankincense taste or smell is not important but the fabled high would be nice to experience if only once.

 

[trophy1]

Try Royal Haze, I'm running it right now and it seems to respond well to topping and is slurping up what ever nutes I throw at her, though I tend to not exceed 1000 ppm usually running at about 800 ppm in RDWC. I feel like plants stay healthier when your are not pushing the nutes to the max. If you are not 100% dialed in, I think extreme nutes will expose any short comings in your set-up and will also cause those stretchy strains to go wild.

 

[randybishop]

neville's haze @5wks and just starting to get rolling...

WOW!! Looks amazing!