Approximately how much oil...
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How's it goin WHATFG? Good to see you over here in this section of the forum. It's usually a lot more chilled out over here compared to the patient forum
It depends on your starting product; whether it be shake, bud, a combo etc..But it would be anywhere from 2% up to the high 20%'s..
So many different concentrates yield very differently. And the quality you are after will also dictate to some degree what your yield will be also.
If you are after a very good quality bubble hash then the yield will be 2%-10% on average but that again depends on the mesh size/quality of hash you are after.
The poorer the quality=higher yield because there will be more contaminants (plant matter etc) in the hash.
If you are going to make a more old school black type of hash with more plant matter in it yields can be way up there but the potency drops a lot. Then there are the better quality hash's..hand rub types, dry sift, etc...Yields can be as low as 2% but quality will be much higher because of the more concentrated resin heads to plant matter ratio.
Then there's also the bho, iso, and other solvent extracted hashes. Yields usually are in the 15-25% range if you are starting with good bud with good resin amount.
If you are going to make it from good sugar trim you can expect more like a 5-10% yield on the average. From dried starting product.
What type of hash are you thinking of making?
Stay away from dry ice hash. It gives a low quality product.
WHATFG
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Fancy meeting you here OG! I know what you mean...people here are actually using their medication!!LOL I'm trying to prepare this freaking appeal for wcb and I just know they're going to ask why I have such a huge script (450g/m) (like they know what a huge amount would be). I just want to be able to throw numbers at them that they can't really argue with because they just don't know. I am new to the amount so I haven't utilized it yet. I am still working out my strains ...again. And my second crop...not so good.
Come the nicer weather, I was going to do some iso stuff..i tried it last summer and it worked out pretty good. I have monster bag of avb I'm not quite sure what I'm going to do with but i can see good shit through the scope so I know its there. Hash...I need to find an easy way...are those bubble bags the way to go? Looks like different grades of hash come off those. How many do you use?
And of course I'm baking and tincturing so I have other ways of ingesting. I know absolutely nothing about butane extractions, or how to make wax? and wtf are dabs? My age is showing isn't it?
Come the nicer weather, I was going to do some iso stuff..i tried it last summer and it worked out pretty good. I have monster bag of avb I'm not quite sure what I'm going to do with but i can see good shit through the scope so I know its there. Hash...I need to find an easy way...are those bubble bags the way to go? Looks like different grades of hash come off those. How many do you use?
And of course I'm baking and tincturing so I have other ways of ingesting. I know absolutely nothing about butane extractions, or how to make wax? and wtf are dabs? My age is showing isn't it?
Fadedawg
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As Yoda notes, depends on what ya got and what ya want to end up with.
Best yields from a solvent up to the high 20's percentile by weight, about half that for trim, and closer to 10% yield from prime dry sieve from prime bud. More and it isn't prime anymore, because its picking up plant material along with the rest of the trichomes. If we dry sieve, or bubble extract, we follow up with a solvent extraction.
Best yields from a solvent up to the high 20's percentile by weight, about half that for trim, and closer to 10% yield from prime dry sieve from prime bud. More and it isn't prime anymore, because its picking up plant material along with the rest of the trichomes. If we dry sieve, or bubble extract, we follow up with a solvent extraction.
WHATFG
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Not trying to be thick,but by dry sieve do you mean letting the buds dry out completely then pounding the shit out of them through a specific mesh of screen? and that would be? I'm assuming the solvent extraction cleans up the initial extract? what about those metal tube/plunger type thingys? Geez I feel like such an idiot!!
So basically the argument is that it takes that much initial product to produce such a small amount of concentrate. 20% return eh? No wonder there are some huge scripts. Besides here , does anyone have a goog website to go to?
thanks so much
qwizoking
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Read the links
http://skunkpharmresearch.com/
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CaretakerDad
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I generally get about 70 grams of RSO per pound of quality whole plant cannabis using 190 proof alcohol. Hash varies on the type of trim you are using and the method.
I use 5 bags when I run bubble. 20 mesh up to 220. Yes different grades from different bags. Lot's of good vids on youtube about it. Dabs are just "hits" of wax. Like you take a little pinch of wax on a dabber to put in your bowl or other smoking device.
Yes dry sieve is a very old method of resin head hash extraction where the flowered chopped down plant is hit on mesh screen to release the resin heads from the flowers. Commercial grade is a more rougher technique often with larger mesh size. You can fine tune dry sieve process by being very gentle with the sieve process and using different mesh size screens to get different grades/resin head size hash. Dry sieve hash produces some very, very nice hash if done with some patients and good technique and is actually one of the easiest methods of making hash.
Here is some of my OG pressed dry sieve hash:
Yes it takes a good amount of starting product to yield a much less concentrated product but the end product is much more concentrated so you need much less of it to medicate.
A tiny dab of wax is very, very powerful compared to flowers. Wax is up around 55-70% THC. Honey oil can be way up in the 80's and low 90% THC range.
Very good quality full melt bubble can also be way up in the 50-60% THC range. Dry sieve varies greatly with how long the product is run for and mesh size used.
http://skunkpharmresearch.com/
Yes dry sieve is a very old method of resin head hash extraction where the flowered chopped down plant is hit on mesh screen to release the resin heads from the flowers. Commercial grade is a more rougher technique often with larger mesh size. You can fine tune dry sieve process by being very gentle with the sieve process and using different mesh size screens to get different grades/resin head size hash. Dry sieve hash produces some very, very nice hash if done with some patients and good technique and is actually one of the easiest methods of making hash.
Here is some of my OG pressed dry sieve hash:
A tiny dab of wax is very, very powerful compared to flowers. Wax is up around 55-70% THC. Honey oil can be way up in the 80's and low 90% THC range.
Very good quality full melt bubble can also be way up in the 50-60% THC range. Dry sieve varies greatly with how long the product is run for and mesh size used.
http://skunkpharmresearch.com/
steelheadguy
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What is the follow up to bubble? 190 proof?
Fadedawg
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Dry sieve is gently shaking material on a sieve, or tumbling it in a mesh tumbler, or using something like a Grim Reaper, so that the trichomes are broken off and fall through the sieve, onto a collection surface below.
The different solvent just dissolve the resin in situ. You can use a bath or flush them through a packed column of material.
Our best yield using solvent was 28.1%, but our average is more like 23% on high THC strains and 18% on high CBD strains.
Alice's Restaurant is reputed to be a good resource, and even closer at hand, you can get almost anything you want, if you peruse this concentrates forum in detail. One of the prime reasons that I'm here.
As QK notes, Skunk Pharm Research, is a good easy overall starter source, from which to hone your skills picking the keen alleged minds of the denizens who lurk in the shadows here. There are other forums that offer similar information, but all are not closely moderated so as to keep the brutality minimized, so wear your leathers and be prepared to pick the mating calls of loons, from the useful information.
Fadedawg
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We primarily extract BHO or QWET from the dry sift tailings, but have used denatured alcohol to strip large batches of lower quality material to make topicals.
WHATFG
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Great place to go...so much crap on the web it's hard to know what to believe. Thanks
Grow Goddess
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That is about the same return I get when making RSO. I have not made enough QWISO yet to offer a confident number.
My Querkel strain gives me about 4 grams of concentrated cannabis per ounce of premium bud. That is about average with all of my strains, excluding TGA Qush. Qush makes some of the best oil, very clean, nice amber color. With Qush I only get about 3 grams per ounce.